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BrandonWebb

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I am addicted to golf. I am passionate about traveling around the United States and playing the nation's best public golf courses and discovering out-of-the-way tracks that blow my mind. I would eventually like to play golf in all 50 states.

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First Review
12/19/2016
Last Review
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Austin Country Club

Played On 06/25/2022
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Today’s round here easily ranks among my favorite golf experiences. Rarely does a course exceed lofty expectations coming in, but ACC delivered.

It is unlike any Pete Dye course I’ve played. It is amazing how the holes drip down the hill the club sits on into the canyons and down to the river below, creating a multitude of angles.

I really admired how the course allows one to play to their strengths by offering a variety of strategy off the tee. The shot values are off the charts. You are required throughout to step up and hit proper, if scary, golf shots. The pucker factor is real! If your miss is left, it could be a challenging day.

I now have a greater understanding of why the Dell Match Play is contested here. It truly is a risk/reward proposition throughout.

Above all, the ambiance and vibe surrounding the club - from the range, to the clubhouse, to the Harvey Pencil Locker Room - is exceptional.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Was a little underwhelmed, considering this was the former host of the Houston Open. I’m not knocking it, but there just weren’t any memorable holes. The land was uninteresting and the holes seemed too similar to me.

This area has been battling a drought over the past month. Still, the conditions were good. There were some crispy spots in the fairways, but it did not detract. The firmness with which it played was one of the highlights of the round.

Greens had been aerated a week and a half ago. Still a little bumpy, but almost recovered. A little rain and one good rolling would bring them back to normal.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Shoal Creek Golf Club

Played On 05/19/2022
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Birmingham Advisor
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Walked

Shoal has made some massive improvements for, and since, the 2018 U.S. Women’s Open. Additionally, a corner of the property was ravaged by a tornado that has people wondering what is the next move aesthetically.

This very prestigious club has hosted several major championships and is rumored to be courting another. The massaging of some holes for the Women’s Open, such as the removal of the large waste bunker down the right side of the third hole near the green, have been welcomed progress. Yet, the damage incurred by holes 4, 5 and 6 from the storm stripped them of their identity.

The fourth hole is a shell of itself. No longer shrouded on both sides by towering pines, instead it looks like a hole that belongs at Bent Brook. This hole used to play claustrophobically toward a bewildering green. Now, however, it is wide open, thanks to the tornado. Club officials are weighing what to do to return character to the hole. I’ve heard chatter about church-pew bunkers and transporting in mature hardwoods. A yet-to-be-named architect is reported to be in the course’s future to further massage Jack Nicklaus’ layout and solve the riddle left by the storm damage. That will surely include stiffening the par-5 sixth, which has not played the same since losing the tree that rested in the center of the fairway and affected layups and green-seeking second shots alike.

The rest of the course is pristine. From the apt opening hole to the shortish finisher with the looming clubhouse in the distance, Shoal Creek leans on its reputation as a second-shot golf course. Ample fairways await tee shots for the most part. Approaches, however, require the utmost precision. Because of the Augusta-like green complexes, missing the appropriate level of the putting surface can be costly. Additionally, missing greens usually leaves a player with a dicey short-sided chip over a bunker off a tight lie. It can frazzle the nerves.

Shoal’s collection of par 3s are stout. Use of rock walls to front penalty areas are beautifully done. And the tee shot on the 14th, high above the fairway, is one of the single best in Birmingham.

The practice area and short course are not to be hurried through.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
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Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

The Gold course offers green complexes that are more difficult than its’ fabled sister course, the Blue Monster.

There are some really good, fun holes, like Nos. 8, 10, and 18. However, this is typical Florida resort style golf. One dogleg with water down one side numbs you to the stellar holes.

I don’t think the value is there to warrant the price tag. But, once on the property they’ve got you. You can either pay twice as much for another round on the Blue, or feel like you are saving money by playing the Gold or Red.

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
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Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

It has been roughly 30 years between rounds for me at Doral. Much has changed aesthetically, both with the ownership of Donald Trump and the redesign by Gil Hanse.

Still, there is something very familiar about the Blue Monster. It is an iconic golf course that perhaps has been left behind. Since the PGA Tour eschewed backlash by moving Doral’s date on the schedule, it is stuck in the purgatory between toney 1950s Florida resort golf and the shadow cast by other Florida mega-resorts, namely Streamsong, that have passed it by.

What Doral has going for it is a brand name. Serious golfers know the label. They grew up watching men like Greg Norman, Ray Floyd, Nick Faldo and Steve Elkington win the Doral Ryder Open on CBS to the dulcet tones of Pat Summerall and Ken Venturi.

Most every course claims a signature hole. Doral, however, has a legit signature hole: the brute of a par 4 18th, the famed Blue Monster, and namesake of the course. It is a hole that every serious fan of the game ought to experience for themselves. Playing into the prevailing wind, the carry off the tee to clear the hazard that looms down the left side is weightier than it appears. That only earns you another chance to baptize a ball with an approach that played 180 yards. Remember Rory tossing a club into this penalty area the last year the tournament was played here? You will have empathy for him after you’ve holed out.

You also feel like being a guest at the resort is a big deal. The rooms are terrific. The practice areas are spacious. There is an ambiance about the place.

However, judging from a golf perspective, outside of the rush of playing the finishing hole and its’ sister hole - the adjacent par-3 ninth that is a handful, the rest of the holes are just not that memorable. Hanse did some major surgery on several holes, particularly the 15th and 16th, which don’t resemble the previous iteration in the least. And I think they were good changes. It’s just that the rest of the course is one dogleg with water down one side after another. Yawning, typical Florida resort-style golf. And the Blue is honestly not even the toughest course on the property.

Having said all that, I still enjoyed the round. I think one’s golfing resume ought to include a round on the Monster. And that, in the end, is why a round here comes with such a hefty price tag. They know most will pay for that opportunity.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Palmilla’s three nine-hole courses are punctuated by extreme barrancas and sandy washouts that force some brawny carries, mainly on approach.

The Mountain nine is pretty benign, and should afford numerous opportunities to card good scores, until the treacherous fifth hole, where it ratchets up with a stern par 4 that requires carries over ball-swallowing ravines off the tee and on the second shot. No. 9 is another memorable hole, where an aggressive drive over the cluster of bunkers on the inside right of the fairway’s dogleg can yield a flip wedge in.

The Ocean nine demands a lot from your game, particularly from the second hoke to the clubhouse, which features dramatic elevation change down across the highway to the sea and back. Nos. 2-4 are sensational holes, and extremely tough pars.

My only criticism is that at $250, I’m not quite sure the value matches up to other public options in the area, like Cabo del Sol’s Desert course and Cabo Real, which are much better conditioned and about $65 cheaper.

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

The Desert course offers manageable par 5s, arduous par 3s, with a sprinkling of short par 4s. A bit of a yawning start gives way to some excellent holes, including a back nine that plays across the highway and back toward the Sea of Cortez, with brilliant holes that rank among the course’s best offerings.

Though none of the holes play out to the sea, you are constantly aware of your proximity to it, because it is the backdrop on most every hole, yielding exemplary views.

The practice range is staffed with an attendant that sees to your every need, including club washing, doling out bottles of water and sunscreen, and even providing an ashtray to accommodate one’s cigar.

The first tee and comfort stations offer a min-mart assortment of gum, mints, band aids and remedies for most every ailment from headaches to nausea.

I found this to be a great value when looking for a public offering. It’s greens fee pales on comparison to.other neighbors and the conditioning was much better than other courses that charge up to $65 more.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Seaside at Sea Island Golf Club

Played On 12/14/2021
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

I could try to describe how good the back nine of the Seaside course is, but I don’t think I can do it justice. Just like I could attempt to describe the experience at Sea Island, but it’s just a great hang that you kind of have to discover on your own. From the incredible practice area, to the best biscuit and gravy breakfast I’ve ever had, to one of the best locker rooms on the planet (do yourself a favor and have lunch in there; order the fried bologna sandwich and thank me later), and top-notch caddie loops, Sea Island is among the few places that I’ve been fortunate enough to travel to that soared past my expectations going in.

That is not to say that the front nine is not memorable. From the moment you stand on the first tee and see those giant classic clam shell bunkers that are sprawling down the right side of the fairway, you know you are in for a test. The marsh frames most holes. There are a few forced carries. For that reason, the Seaside course is very demanding off the tee.

Placing your ball in the fairway, however, is just the beginning. The wind on this exposed track makes judging yardage on approach shots very challenging and crucial to scoring. Getting a good caddie and trusting his experience is paramount.

Like the sister Plantation course, bunkers abide gratuitously. The classic green structures are pushed up, and are accompanied by deep, scalloped bunkers, creating the illusion that the greens themselves are super small. It is an intimidating visual. I firmly believe that battling the tricks the course plays on your mind that lead to indecision is tougher than the elements experienced or the challenge the course presents in and of itself.

If you successfully reach the putting surface in regulation, the fun begins. There is a ton of movement within them and the grain and wind complicates things further. Should you miss the green, getting up and down takes every bit of mettle and skill you can muster. Besides the sand, the closely-mown runoff areas repel balls well away from the pin, leaving some awkward pitches. My biggest takeaway was that there are no small misses on the Seaside course. If you miss the green, even narrowly, you miss big because balls do not stay put. They meander to collection areas.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging

Plantation at Sea Island Golf Club

Played On 12/13/2021
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

No, Pete Dye is not the architect.

Turns out Davis Love III and Mark Love like railroad tie planks as well.

The Plantation course at Sea Island is a shotmaker’s delight. The green complexes and use of half-par holes allow this course to emerge from the shadow of its much-heralded sister course.

Don’t be fooled by the yardage on the scorecard. Though there are some short par 4s and all but one par 5 is reachable for some, peril awaits in the form of strategically-placed bunkers that place a premium on hitting your number, even when laying up.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Greenbrier - Old White Course

Played On 10/17/2021
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

The Old White at The Greenbrier is thriving after getting out on the forefront of the recent “return to classic architecture and conditioning” revival that has captured the raters, rankers and golfing masses.

Deemed tired, with boring round bunkers, even more uninteresting round greens and less-than-thought-provoking mowing patterns, Lester George was tapped in the early 2000s to restore Macdonald and Raynor’s vision. And though the course has since been reconstructed following the massive flood several years ago that led to the ownership softening some of George’s features, the Old White sits solidly in the top half of most publications’ top 50 lists.

It is a remarkably flat, charming layout that rests in a valley of the Allegheny Mountains. The lush, verdant terrain that surrounds Howard’s Creek is made interesting by strategic fairway bunkering and sunken green side traps. Mounding also captures your eye off the tee.

The greens offered movement that is quite subtle to the eye, but dramatic to the ball. I was fooled by how much break I encountered throughout the course, and was thankful to have a forecaddie that showed me the way, even if I was unbelieving. It should come as no surprise, however, as you are playing through a valley with cumbersome mountains on either side, with a body of water bisecting the property to provide the pull. Trust the caddie.

Much has been written about the course’s opening tee shot. Tom Watson said it was his favorite opening shot he’s ever played. I’m not inclined to argue with him. Walking up the steps beside the clubhouse to the starter’s stand and looking out over the property to the fairway below Is quite sensational.

The course’s backbone - at a par of 70 - is reinforced by a bevy of par 4s. Due to the parkland nature of the course, driving accuracy is a key to scoring well, as you will be punching out frequently, otherwise. And this time of year, balls can be hard to locate with all the fallen leaves.

The par 3s, two of which are prominent template holes, are good on the front. I found the two on the back to play largely the same.

Do yourself a favor and retire to Slammin’ Sammy’s afterward for a post-round drink. Try the burger. The hand-cut fries are among the best I’ve had anywhere.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Typical state park layout, with fairways wider than they appear from tee. Jack employed more right-to-left doglegs than he usually does in his designs. Greens were excellent. Wish there had been more memorable holes, particularly playing around the bay.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy

Ballyhack Golf Club

Played On 08/23/2021
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Ballyhack provides a style of golf uncommon to this region. Here, the ball moves along the ground - both after it hits the fairway and the green.

Set in dramatic topography, the holes rise and fall with spectacular elevation changes. It has immense scale. That combined with the rugged, rough-ringed blowout bunkers reminded me a lot of Erin Hills. Some players will find the course overwhelming and penal. I found it exciting and the holes possessed a rhythm that unfolds with each new teeing ground. The strategy that is involved takes advantage of this topography. If you are a “see pin, aim to carry ball to pin” player, you will likely be frustrated after a round here. Architect Lester George asks you to look at all aspects of the hole in order to find alternate routes to the flag. Managing the ravines and brooks that permeate the course sometimes require creativity.

There aren’t many trees that come into play on the course. The ones George decided to leave, however, are used brilliantly to influence the strategy of the hole. This occurs notably on the eighth (which is my favorite hole on the property due to the options offered in getting to the green), 15th and 18th holes.

Panoramic views abound due to the mostly open nature of the course, particularly the front nine, which lies across the road.

The green complexes utilize a lot of slope and prominently feature shelves with distinct tiering. Several false fronts, particularly the one guarding the first green, can be maddening.

We played 36 holes per day over two days. If you are staying on property and entertaining a similarly ambitious schedule, I would highly recommend playing your own ball the first round of the day and playing an alternate format in the afternoon. This is a taxing golf course to traverse, even with carts, and you will likely be tired. The first day we played the new Goat Trak in the evening. The GT utilizes all 18 greens of the regulation course, but is played from its own set of tees ranging from 60-165 yards. It is immense fun and allows players who have played well in the morning to loosen up and just play golf shots instead of grinding over score. Likewise, a player that has struggled earlier has a chance to re-discover his game by playing some fun golf shots.

Ballyhack’s staff is top-notch and will stop at nothing to insure their guests are satisfied.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging

Moore's Mill Golf Club

Played On 08/05/2021
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Solid private club that Jason Dufner lives on and plays out of.

Tight driving corridors on most holes with little margin for error if missing fairways. OB stakes are numerous, further enhancing the penalty for crooked tee shots.

Due to the course’s topography, prepare for uneven lies and a few blind approaches.

The back nine offers more interesting holes. The short par 4s - the fourth, 12th, 14th and 15th - were among the most memorable and fun holes on the property. Other than the picturesque 16th that plays over water, I felt like the collection of par 3s were rather weak.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Hattiesburg Country Club

Played On 07/15/2021
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

This Press Maxwell design is the former home of the PGA Tour’s Magnolia Classic from 1968-1993 (fun fact: it is the site of Payne Stewart’s first Tour win). However, the routing is about that is left of Maxwell’s 1959 design. Nathan Crace redesigned the course a little more than 20 years ago, resulting in one of the more fun courses I’ve ever played.

HCC is a throwback to the PGA Tour courses of the 1980s and 90s. It reminded me of Callaway Gardens, another former Tour host that has fallen by the wayside. Not overly long, but fairway-finding is an absolute must or you will be punching out from pine-laden jail. Small green complexes with interesting sections and good movement. One of my favorite things about the course is the options off the tee. Several shorter holes don’t necessarily take the driver out of your hand, but you can also take less club with less risk and still enjoy the hole.

The variety of the holes is fantastic. There is a great rhythm to the round as they blend together seamlessly. Be prepared for a bevy of doglegs and the bulkhead greens are some of the best on the property.

The finishing hole is terrific. A narrow three-level green is guarded by a lake making for a tough downhill approach shot.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Inverness Country Club

Played On 07/14/2021
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Not an overly long course and not tricked up. Rather, Inverness relies on quick greens with baffling undulation to damper scoring. Back nine offers some really good holes. Be prepared for a lot of elevation change.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Spirit Hollow Golf Course

Played On 06/03/2021
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Now that The Harvester in Rhodes has gone fully private, Spirit Hollow is arguably Iowa’s best public offering.

The 400-acre property that was previously a cattle ranch stretches across varied terrain, constant elevation changes, and natural water features.

The first two holes are good, then the course gives way to a string of rather unremarkable holes before arriving at the ninth. This short par 4 sets up what is demanded the rest of the way: wide corridors off the tee before asking for precision on approach. This is essential because the first cut of rough is extremely playable, yet unpredictable. It’s easy to get a club on the ball and through it, but flyers were prevalent. Distance control is tough out of this rough. The secondary rough is waist-high scrub that makes looking for your ball futile. I lost four strokes by hitting into it.

Additionally, chipping out of the greenside rough is tricky, and will be imperative to scoring well.

The back nine makes up for the monotonous middle holes on the front. The par 5s are deceiving. Depending on the pin placement, both are reachable, but small, severe greens make it a tall task. Laying up to the angles offered can be a better option to score.

The greens are currently perfect. Conditioning overall was top notch, but the greens are as good as I’ve putted on in a while.

Lambo’s restaurant offers cut-above options and I wound up staying for dinner. In addition to the regular range, the course offers Top Tracer bays that provide a Topgolf experience.

My only small gripe is I was told when checking in at the pro shop that they could not accept “pre-paid gift cards.” Said their system was not set up to accommodate them. That should be easily fixed so as not to inconvenience guests planning to use them.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

The Golf Club At Redlands Mesa

Played On 05/22/2021
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

Caught Redlands Mesa on a day that featured 20-25 mph winds, with gusts of 30 - a tough ask in the high desert.

The course features an abundance of elevated tee boxes, leaving shots exposed to that wind. It made for an exhilarating challenge, particularly on the par 3s.

RM takes advantage of its’ ideal setting amongst the backdrop of the Colorado National Monument. You will be in awe of the breathtaking vistas. The outward nine, in my opinion, is more difficult and slightly hindered by an abundance of houses that are plainly in view. The inward nine, however, is largely void of residences and is the much more visually stunning routing.

First-time visitors, even armed with a free course guide, will be a little lost or dismayed at times about where the correct play is. That’s ok. Rub of the green is decidedly in play here and it will tend to even out. There are many risk/reward options along the way, particularly on the par 5s, which are reachable in two for better players. And if you are not from a region that lies well above sea level, prepare for a one-club difference.

Fairways were a little splotchy in parts. It could be the drought I was told they are experiencing so far this year. Bunkers were good. Sand is coarse and fine. Greens were a touch on the slow side, but rolled good. I’m not sure on a day like today that the staff could get them any faster without playability concerns. My ball continuously oscillated on the green throughout the round.

RM is a course chock full of character and I wouldn’t doubt if players either love it or hate it. Some holes feature interesting quirks that if embraced enriches the experience.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

I suspect there are players who visit the French Lick Resort and have to choose between playing either the Dye course or the Ross course. And I suspect many of these players select the Ross because of two factors: first, Pete Dye’s reputation for building hard golf courses scares the faint of heart, with his proliferation of bunkers and other hazards. And secondly, because of the price tag. The Ross comes in more than $200 less expensive than the Dye.

Little do these folks know they are about to get punched in the face. Dye may have been diabolical. Ross is an absolute savage.

At first blush, the course looks serene. It is a par 70. The cross bunkers aren’t intimidating. And the greens are of ample size. But, about those greens…

Ross confounds players with these complexes. It is a hackneyed phrase when describing Golden Age courses, but pronounced slope from back to front makes leaving approach shots below the hole of paramount importance. Sometimes even being short of the green is better than being on the floor in the wrong spot. That said, many holes feature shaved banks that will allow underclubbed irons to roll well back down into the fairway. The course demands imagination and creativity. Additionally, subtle slope around the cups seem to repel putts in every direction. Frustration can really mount if you come here planning to shoot a number.

The Ross course plays 3-4 shots harder than the Dye and you should anticipate playing an additional 300 yards from what the scorecard says.

I cannot recall ever playing a tougher collection of par 3s. They are meant to be difficult. Embrace the challenge. Two played well over 210 yards uphill, and today they were into the fan. You should add an additional 10-20 yards for all of the par 3s except No. 16, which was merely a wedge but a back left pin funneled approaches back to the front of the green.

And speaking of funneling, I would pay good money if somehow a Tour event could be reprised here. Though the 1924 PGA Championship was staged here, it just doesn’t have the pedigree for a modern golf tournament, but I would relish the opportunity to witness Tour pros cry about how “unfair” the eighth green is. While milling around before teeing off I heard several older gentlemen bantering with each other about how many times they have 4-putted the eighth green over the years. After playing it, now I understand. The pin today was back left and cut merely three paces off the fringe. The green is 32 yards deep. Approaches worked their way back to the front of the green, setting up 85- to 90-foot putts up the menacing incline. Four-putts are the norm and I have no doubt there are plenty of 10s carded there.

Having said all that, I loved it. French Lick benefits greatly from having two polar opposite courses, from an architectural and strategic standpoint. You will do yourself a disservice if you play just one and not the other.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
Perfect weather
Used cart

Thinking about how to navigate a course Pete Dye has dug out of the dirt can cause a sleepless night. Especially when you drive out and survey the property on the afternoon of arrival to the French Lick Resort.

The fairways appear to be mere ribbons. The rough looks juicy enough to swallow a golf ball, and for that matter a 9-iron. Bunkers litter the property like the acne-pockmarked face of a 15-year-old boy. Slopes are harsh. Greens are small. Confidence is waning.

It is reported that upon visiting the extremely difficult site of the present golf course, Dye said he couldn’t build a track on it. He changed his mind, however, and moved 2.5 million cubic yards of dirt to create the fingers of land that the holes are draped on. The course basically wraps around the site and flows down from the mansion and pro shop that sits atop the property like a Christmas tree topper. The views from the second highest point in Indiana are dramatic and the wind usually blows. The genius in the routing is that it changes direction every three or four holes, so you will get varying winds that can help or hurt.

Dye is up to his usual antics, attempting to intimidate you with trouble that appears to be in play, but may actually not be. His uses all shapes and sizes of bunkers, including the “volcano” bunkers that are a signature.

That said, after playing 36 holes here today, I found the course’s bark to be much worse than its bite. The fairways are pinched, and the greens are small, but the Bluegrass rough allows stray drives to sit up nicely, allowing for recovery. The trade off is some nasty flyers. This may be a product of the early playing season. I have heard that in the summer the conditions can harshen.

You can make the experience as harrowing as you like by moving way back on the tee box, but I am not a sadist. The Gold tees tip out at 8,100 yards and possess a course rating of, wait for it... 80.0. Insane. It’s not an run-of-the-mill golf course, so the average player will probably struggle in stretches here. Don’t let that deter you, however, from playing it if you are a mid-to-high handicapper.

Finally, the $350 greens fee is steep, and you will be required to hire a forecaddie ($40+tip/pp), but the Dye Course goes above and beyond with the tee gift. Most high-end courses gladly give you a bag tag with your name engraved on it, and here is no exception. However, in addition, following your round you will receive a valuables pouch with a small bottle of local whiskey, a cigar, cutter, matches and shot glass. That, friends, is the proper way to say “thanks for playing here.”

Conditions Excellent
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Sultan's Run Golf Course

Played On 04/24/2021
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Birmingham Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

Though it is a stepsister course to the French Lick Resort some 30 miles away, Sultan’s Run is no shrinking violet.

Rolling farmland provides fantastic shot values and demands a variety of thoughtful clubbing throughout.

Small greens with a ton of movement constantly seduce 3-putts with the slightest indecision.

There is a uniqueness to the sands in these traps. Coarser than most, but had no issue with how it played.

The three-hole stretch between 14-16 is my favorite part of the course, though there aren’t any filler holes.

The club touts the top signature hole in the state of Indiana. With the stunning waterfall that cascades behind the 18th green, they have a legitimate seat at the table of that debate.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 05/05/2021

Thank you for your kind words! We're glad your experience at Sultan's Run stood out among most.

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