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sorenj

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First Review
04/21/2017
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TimberStone Golf Course

Played On 06/10/2018
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Very good track, with the potential to be terrific

As I stood on the first tee at Timberstone, in the back of my head I was asking myself, what I had gotten up at 4:30 in the morning for. Those questions stopped about the same time I reached the first fairway.

The course is in terrific condition. So good that I intended to ask the guy in the pro shop on my way home what their volume of players is, but I forgot. The fairways and greens are manicured, divots are (very) few and far between and even ball marks on the greens seems to be regularly fixed (I've been to a lot of courses, public and private, this is not something I can usually say). The bunkers were also immaculate and played exactly as a bunker should (also, not nearly as common as one would expect/hope).

Timberstone is in the heart of the valley in the middle of an agricultural area, so you would expect a relatively flat track; however, they make very good use of the subtle changes in elevation around the property to run holes up and down the small elevation changes on the property to ensure that very few holes are flat tee to green.

On the topic of the greens... be sure to putt some before you play. it is almost a certainty that this course will run harder and faster than you are used to. Putts that I thought I had mishit and would be 3 feet short easily cruised to 10-12 feet beyond the hole on downhill putts. Pretty much all of the greens have "something to them" with regard to undulation and break. Be sure to take the time to get a good read on your putts or you could have a very long day regardless of how well you are striking the ball.

Having said all of that, there is nothing like good hard fast greens to help you confidently roll in some long (6-10 foot) putts that you ordinarily wouldn't expect to make. Again, the greens are in terrific shape, practice a bit before you play and enjoy them!

Relatively straight, the course defends itself in a few different ways. The fairways are pretty wide for short hitters, but - in general - get narrower the longer your drive. Most of the rough is pretty benign; however, in the absence of tall trees, there are large patches of long grasses to keep you honest. There are also well placed bunkers, some right in-front of the greens as well as a split fairway with a small set of trees in it that should be a terrific feature in a few years when they mature.

Timberstone also uses elevation to lengthen some shorter holes and make more manageable some of the longer ones. For example the (well over) 200 yard par 3 sixth also drops a little over 25 feet tee to green to give you the little extra carry you may need; while the relatively short par 5 seventh uses the reverse of this as an incline in the landing area to deplete the roll of anything under 200 yards.

The pro shop staff and grounds crew folks I met were all very friendly and accommodating so service was not lacking at all. I'll certainly head back out and play again, but I will leave a little more time to practice on the greens before i jump off.

Timberstone is almost an hour from Boise, so if you are commuting set aside some time to get there and back. To me, it was well worth the trek to have played. Once some of the relatively new trees grow in, I suspect it will be worth multiple trips a year. The only thing that kept me from giving the course layout a full 5 stars is that this track is in its infancy and none of the trees are really in play, from a punitive standpoint. But that shouldn't keep you from giving it a whirl, it's only going to get tougher as it matures

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Pierce Park Greens

Played On 06/09/2018
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Good place for brushing up short game basics

Pierce Park Greens is, first and foremost, a practice and instruction facility. They actually have some of the most knowledgeable staff when it comes to club fittings and repairs in the valley as well.

There is also some golf though. sporting a short 9 hole par three track, Pierce Park can be a good place to dust off the wedges (singular depending how far you hit your SW... the longest hole comes in at 117). I take a GW with me that I use on exactly one hole... everything else is SW.

The greens are mostly benign and straightforward and there are very few hazards to avoid on the course, so this is really an extended practice facility... which... to me is great!

If you play Pierce Park, you will very likely finish with the ball you started with, regardless of your skill level (unless you are a complete beginner) and you will likely also "sharpen your saw" a bit along the way. It's kind of an extended, much more fun, version of chipping and putting practice.

Unlike other courses I review, I don't have many pictures of this track because, simply put, I play it all the time and never think to take pics. I did have an ace last year though... and there are a couple pics of that and the range that I'll include.

As I mentioned the staff is very knowledgeable, they are also incredibly nice and always willing to chat or help. I've literally never had a bad experience here.

In the "free gift with purchase" category... there is a house somewhere near the course that breeds bunnies and at times they are around the course.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Easy

Plantation Golf Club

Played On 05/14/2018
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Mature straight-forward track

I'll preface this by saying I was playing in a tournament (scramble - blech) and we played from the gold (easiest, other than the forward, at 5946 yards, 67.9/119) tees on most of the holes. Disclaimer aside...

What I liked about Plantation the most were the greens. Even though they were very recently punched and as such a bit bumpy, you could tell they play hard and fast... they were still pretty fast yesterday even with the bumps. They also play pretty much as you read them, as long as you take the time to really read them. When designing (or playing) a course greens that play true are a great place to start.

Because it was a scramble, the one time I popped a ball in the sand I didn't have to play it; however, heading in there to retrieve my ball left me with good feelings about how they would likely play. Soft, with plenty of sand, I imagine them to play pretty much as they should, as well. All of them were well manicured and maintained.

The fairways and rough were not as meticulously kept. Not horrible by any stretch, but certain not "best of Boise" worthy.

Plantation is a rather short track (especially from where we played) but there are enough bends and (more relevant) old growth trees to keep things fairly honest. There isn't a lot of sand in general, although the par four 13th (pictured) feels like it has about as much as the rest of the course in general.

One of my big "tests" for courses is variety in their par 3's and Plantation delivers here. There are five of them with only 2 playing at roughly the same distance. From the gold (forward) tees there is still one that plays over 200, and when you slide back to the blacks two of them do with one over 190 as well.

I found the back nine to be both more challenging and aesthetically pleasing then the front, which was a little too sparse and open for me. My favorite hole was the short par 4 17th which visually tempts you to play over a tree into a slot between two other trees. As a group we pulled this off, but, if you are playing alone I'd advise the far safer drive and approach to the right.

Plantation isn't a club you'd join to be fully challenged day to day - my response to my brother asking how tough it played was "it's gettable." However, for a country club course, where the goal is primarily to have a good time playing... get challenged a bit without getting frustrated, they layout is better than average.

I found the pro-shop staff delightful, both to their temporary guests there for the tourney and to the regulars. Staff/service seems to be a real feature of this club. I'm uncertain if there simply isn't a driving range at the club, or if I just never saw it... this could be an important factor for some. There is a nice (but relatively flat) putting green right by the first hole.

Overall I enjoyed my afternoon at Plantation. It probably won't show up on any top 10 list of mine, but since I'm coming up on 100 courses played, that's not exactly an indictment. Given the chance I'd play again (in fact this was a charity tourney, and I'll likely play in it again next year).

Conditions Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy

Indian Lakes Golf Club

Played On 04/24/2018
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Experience depends on what you're going for...

I'll be honest, I've avoided playing Indian Lakes as long as I've known it existed because of preconceived notions I had about it. This was a mistake on my part.

The layout of the track isn't going to keep you up at night trying to figure out how to score, it's very straightforward (and probably easier than it's 66.8/115 rating would indicate). However, given the plot of land it's on, they've done about as much as can be expected. What little elevation change is present seems to be used well to lengthen a few of the holes on the limited real estate available.

There are a few nice touches, including a couple of trees entering the left hand side of the fairway on the only par 5 (pictured) and a short par 4 that keeps you honest with perfectly placed fairway bunkers in the landing zone (also pictured). Unfortunately, the "signature" feature of the course, the lake, was dry when I played because of how early in the season it is.

The greens were fast and true and had a few surprises as far as pin positions to them that I enjoyed. While there are plenty of two putt pars available here, if the pin placement is right, there is nothing automatic about it.

Between the clever use of angles - based on the tree ensconced tee box (pictured) and the lake in front of the green - the otherwise relatively short par 4 fourth/thirteenth hole is arguably the most challenging and fun one on the course. And, while most of the course is relatively short, the first par 3, playing around 220, will make sure no one gets by hitting a wedge into every green.

Again, for the most part this course is flat and straight. The fairways are lined with trees but the majority of the landing areas are generous. There are probably only two driver holes, the par 5 (reachable with a good poke off the tee) and the par 4 right before it (not super-long, but with an uphill landing zone and wide fairway, it's a good option here). What surprised me was how great the condition of the course was. Very nicely trimmed rough, greens and tee boxes (punched this morning, but still in good shape) belie the muni-9 feel of this track.

Everyone I met that works at Indian Lakes was terrific (clubhouse staff and grounds crew). Seriously, almost too nice and engaging. The pace of play was great, especially on my second nine when the twosome in front of me pealed off and I was left with nothing but empty course ahead. I play very fast, often coming in well under three hours; yet, the guy playing behind me kept pace the whole way. There were also clearly an abundance of open tee times, for the most part holes were vacant as I looked around. This is a great place to grab a quick (as quick as you can play) nine or eighteen, if you want to get on, around and off.

The only thing I didn't like (and, unfortunately, I think this is a serious consideration based on the simplicity of the track) was the cost. There are just too many good courses in the area -complete with 18 holes, better layouts, and similar price points - to really come here for anything other than the relative assurance of getting on and off quickly (and, again, the terrific staff). I'd love to see them knock 5 or 10 bucks off their green fees. I'll probably be back, just because the lure of a quick round as the spring and summer crowds start showing up will be worth the money to me. However, I can see why some folks just won't come and play here.

ps I used to run marathons, and, at one point was trying to qualify for Boston. The Sacramento marathon is one that people who are trying to qualify (but haven't been able to do it) go to run because it is essentially all downhill and you can post a fast time. Why do I bring this up on a golf course review??? Because Indian Lakes is probably a golf equivalent to that Sacramento run. If you want to play at a place that is likely to lower your handicap (especially after playing a couple times and figuring out what angles there are)... this just might be the place. it's not pitch and put easy or anything, but I think relative to it's rating and slope, you could gain a stroke or two if you wanted to. I shot as bad as I possibly could today to still put up a 76.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
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Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

A great test of your game, na matter how good your game is

One of the things I really like about Falcon Crest is that it can be as difficult or (relatively) easy as you want it to be. While the back tees play essentially the same as Augusta National (77.4/147 vs 76.2/148 at the home of the Masters), the tourney and regular tees play to a much more benign rating. The whites, which we played come in at 69.6/128. We normally would have played one set of tees back, but with sustained winds over 25 MPH and gusts over 50, the regular tees were plenty for us on this day.

Driving through farm country out to Falcon Crest you would expect to be playing a completely flat course but they do a good job of working with their surroundings to feature a decent bit of elevation change. There is a par 3 that drops at least a good 70 feel and at least 7 holes that have 40 feet or more of up or down to them.

They also manage to employ water, either in the form of streams or ponds on a large percentage of their holes, and angles along with well placed bunkers to defend the course. Despite forcing you to hit the ball well to score on most holes, however, this track is not overly punitive when you make a mistake. it's not easy, but I would say it is fair.

One of the hallmarks of this course are the hard, fast, and true greens. They are a pleasure to play if you practice a little before your round; if you don't you'll almost certain give up a few strokes early while making adjustments

Falcon Crest does a nice job of mixing up the variety in their holes and through #13, no two really feel the same. There's then a string of slightly more standard fair before you come to the menacing 18th.

Eighteen is the treasure valley hole I've heard called "unfair" the most among the people I play golf with on a regular basis, and it isn't short of challenge. If you can pull off a perfect 200-205 (but not any longer or you'll risk being in the water), you will leave yourself with a 190 yard'ish carry over water to the green. Obviously, if you are short of that, your carry will be longer. There is a sliver of land leading to the hole which, if you are very precise and can hit the ball just over 220, but not allow it to roll more than about 20 yards after, you can land on to set up a more reasonable wedge into the sloped and angled green. In short, it's a challenge (all distances based on playing the regular white tees, the other two tee boxes are up to 110 yards longer).

I punched down about 190, hit a layup on the land-bridge and then popped a wedge in close from there. With luck on my side my putt rolled in for par, always a good score on this difficult finishing hole.

The staff in the clubhouse were terrific, going out of their way to help one of my partners who somehow left his clubs back at the house and the grounds were in terrific shape considering they were covered in snow about a week ago. Spring has not been kind but the course was in very good condition. The bunkers - which the wind helped me play from more often than I should have - were also in great shape given the recent weather, and played exactly as you'd want them too; neither to thin nor fluffy.

All in all (after our fingers thawed) it was a great morning of golf on a terrific track. I'm looking forward to taking on some of the more challenging tee boxes in the more docile weather of summer and fall.

Note: I said "moderate" for difficulty based on the tees we played, it gets much harder the farther you play back.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

Nice, tight, well defended course

Playing the first hole at the Sun Valley Resort's Trail Creek course I was skeptical about the $120 I had just shelled out for my round. Flat, straight and not very well protected (and only 520 yards for a par 5), I was really concerned this track was going to be a blow-through. Those thoughts lasted exactly 1 hole.

It turns out the first hole is a nice warm up for what proves to be a fairly demanding course. It won't eat you alive as long as you stay relatively straight and it's easier to find balls that drift into the trees than I would have imagined (I'm speaking from experience here); but the challenge is legit.

The fairways are relatively narrow, made even more so because so many of the landing areas are in curves in the course making precision even more of a premium. Most of the greens have either bunker or water protection from the angle you are most likely to approach from. The exceptions that I recall being 1 and 3; the former being the warm-up hole I described before and the latter being a hard dogleg that requires a 200+ approach over trees from almost anywhere on the fairway (a perfect shot will give you around 200 without trees, but there is significant risk in that shot).

I played from the blues and I found the 71.0/134 rating/slope to be about right. I struggled a bit more than I'd like to but I'm playing more to slope than rating right now, so that makes sense. From what I saw, if I had been striking the ball a bit better, the course can be attacked.

My favorite hole was either the afore mentioned third, or the par 3 17th (225 yards of elevated tee goodness... and scenic beauty). seventeen plays to about 2 clubs (maybe a club and a half) downhill and I wound up leaving a well struck 7 iron just short of the green.

The greens at Trail Creek are, I think, the toughest I have played in Idaho. I didn't have a lot of trouble inside 6 feet, but everything further out was a challenge (part of this may have simply been my poor approach game... I left myself with a lot of putts that required covering the entire green).

They had snow the day before I was there so the bunkers were a little thick, but you can tell they are regularly well maintained and still played pretty fairly even with some snow still in the shadows of some of them. The rest of the course was in nearly pristine condition and was an absolute pleasure to play.

Thee closest thing to a complaint I have is that my wife and I drove up from Boise for our anniversary and had booked a tee time for just us to celebrate it together. Because of the uptick in weather (from snow Monday to 60 degrees and sunshine Tuesday) they wound up having a lot of people trying to get on and they paired us up with another twosome. The guys we played with were great and it worked out okay; however, driving three hours to find out that our solo tee time was now double booked was a little disappointing given that they knew about it being a special round for us.

That aside, though, the clubhouse and course staff were all welcoming, pleasant and helpful. Our overall experience was great and completely validated spending the money I had, ever so briefly, worried I might have wasted.

As an aside, we had a very nice meal in the restaurant before we played, if you have time I recommend it. Both the food and the prices were quite good.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Walked

Decent challenge and variety, especially playing from the back

While Boise has a host of nice course there are not a lot you can play with a rating of 73+ and slope of 135, even from the back. Ridgecrest give you just that.

At nearly 7000 yards, there is plenty of length on this course. Large waste areas throughout the course are a mixed hazard; you can get a lot of roll on them extending your drive, but you will be hitting off rocky sand on your second shot, so if you don't pick it clean you might be doing the whole thing over again on your third.

There is also a decent amount of water on the course, including in play ponds on three of the par 3's (one with water left, one right, and one you must carry). Even if you don't play the back tees, the (very) elevated first shot on the 236 yard par 3 12th hole is not to be missed. I placed a 6 iron pin high, just to the left of the green (the pond on the right hand side of the green might, or might not, have been on my mind as I hit).

The finishing hole is a run winding par 5 that might be reachable for a big hitter, it is well under than 500 yards if you *don't* cut a bit off the corner. Having said that, there is a nice bunker complex in front of the green. Laying up right in front of the bunkers leaves you only about 90 to the center of the green and a very good chance to finish your round with par or better.

Ridgecrest has always been in great shape every time I have played out there (it's a bit of a commute from my house, so I don't play it as often as I'd like).
Pace of play is seldom and issue either in my experience (although the group in front of me yesterday spent entirely too much time on the putting surface).

The service in the pro-shop and clubhouse in general is always good as well. Grounds crews and players assistants at this course are also uncommonly helpful (I was even offered a ride up the rather steep 17th fairway, which I passed on) and friendly.

The other sets of tees are easier and set at angles that make the holes more approachable, so the course can really be played by a golfer of any skill level (on the par 5 7th, for example, the back tees were about 70 yards back of the next set of tees yesterday). Ridgecrest is a bit of a gem that probably doesn't get the attention it deserves in the valley because of it's Nampa location. Try it out, I think you'll like it!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Amarillo Country Club

Played On 08/01/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Windy day on am immaculate course...

I have been told that Amarillo is one of the windiest cities in the country. I’ve also been told that “Texas hospitality” takes friendliness and service to another level. If my visit to Amarillo Country Club is any indication, you can mark both of those down as fact. The staff and management (who we had the pleasure of meeting) were as true to their reputations as the Amarillo winds; and meeting and interacting with these folks was a great way to start my round.

Once out on the course, the track held plenty of challenge (especially with the wind) and boasted a nearly immaculate playing surface. Lush, but not overly soft, fairways and cuts of rough and wonderfully groomed greens greeted us, hole after hole. The course is laid out well, and although there is road traffic all around the property, I never really felt like I was “in the city.”

Making excellent use of relatively limited space; the course does a very nice job of creating challenge. With just enough bend in most of their fairways to limit landing options and take advantage of well placed trees; Amarillo, from the blues, is plenty of golf course for most players (plays to a 71.6). There is a greater challenge (that I did not bite off) back at the black tees; but what is nice is that the whites - by opening up some of the fairways a bit - play to a very manageable 69.4. In other words, there is a course for pretty much everyone at Amarillo Country Club.

During my round, there is no other way to say it, I got a lesson in playing in the wind. Before I left on my trip I spent a day on the range practicing nothing but knock-down shots, particularly with my 2-iron. That practice came in very handy on a day with a 2 to 2.5 club wind. What I hadn’t practiced was how to manage the slight draw on most of my approach shots which wound up being - how shall I say - “highlighted” by the wind. Not having an answer in my bag of tricks for low and accurate approach shots, my score suffered a bit. I, unfortunately, also didn’t “practice” believing the results from previous shots, and therefore repeatedly tried to club up or down 1, instead of 2 to compensate for the wind. This did not positively affect my score either.

In all though, it was a great day on the course, and I developed a part of my game previously untested. Being a private club, one cannot just walk on and play; however, I certainly recommend taking the chance if it presents itself. And if, like me, you run into some difficult winds while working your way around the club… there is always that Texas sized service level to make your day!

Conditions Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Quail Hollow Golf Club

Played On 07/23/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

It's a different course from the blues!

I've never done a second review for the same course before, and I don't know if I will again. Quail hollow, though, is a rather different course from the Blue tees... enough so that I thought it was worth it.

Looking at the scorecard, particularly the rating and slope you might not think it that different (67.7/125 vs. 70.1/127. However there are an extra 500 yards to take into account and, moreso, many of those yards are added to the carry necessary to safely get on board the fairways of some of the tougher holes on the course.

Number 5, for example, usually requires something of a mid-iron. I usually use a 7 my father uses a 5. From the blues; however, you will want a good 210+ off the tee to wind up in the same place for your approach. Similarly, on number 11 I needed a 224 yard 3w to get to where I normally place my 7 iron. On both of these shots, being short can mean losing a ball in a very overgrown creek bed.

The par three's also average about 23 yards longer apiece as well with two of them stretching out over 200 yards.

It's just quite a bit more challenging from back there, with an even greater premium on accuracy than was already present and a greater challenge delivering on that because of the added distance.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Quail Hollow Golf Club

Played On 07/16/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Variety is the name of the game at Quail Hollow

I am not a fan of par 70 courses, and yet I love this track. What it lacks in distance (specifically par 5 holes) it more than makes up for in unique and challenging holes. Further, Quail will test both your target golf and more conventional games. If you are playing golf in Boise and want the best chance to use your full bag of clubs, this is your course.

The average golfer can play the first five holes at Quail without using anything larger then a 5 iron. From the white tee's I don't use anything larger than a 7. It doesn't hurt that there are 2 par 3's in that 5 hole run; however, the other three holes are short par 4's are less demanding about the accuracy of the tee shot as they are regarding it's length. All three offer the possibility of hitting the ball too far out of bounds. Only one isn't a lateral hazard, so it won't ruin your day to be long, but it won't make it either.

After that, however, things open up quite a bit and the big dogs can bite. Driver is a perfectly acceptable club off the tee on holes six through fourteen (although 11 does re-introduce the "you can hit it too far" vibe unless you elect to carry a decent amount of water, with a non-lateral OB for shots hit through the fairway). Two of the last four holes are par 3's, but the other two are also driver holes.

One of the things I like about this course is it puts a premium on accuracy the majority of it's holes, even if they are not short iron target golf holes. In many instances tee shots must navigate down course stands of trees which can swallow even slightly errant shots. Most of those stands bookend creeks that run through the fairway, so there is the added difficulty of a carry to consider as well.

The par three holes are all unique as well, with their one common factor being that there is some version of trouble between tee and green on all of them. The first is hilltop to hilltop, the second requires a water carry, the third is an (at least) one club downhill over sage brush and the final one requires a shot over a ravine (sometimes occupied by a deeply recessed pond, sometimes not).

This course is simply a joy to play and (as long as you are not taking advantage of the ample opportunities to lose balls) a great way to spend 4+ hours.

The pace of play can, at times, be a little slower than that of other public course in Boise. This is largely because there just aren't a lot of places to easily find wayward balls and groups are often delayed using "their full five minutes" (more than once). At the same time, most of my rounds here still come in around 4 hours and I've never turned down an invitation to play because I was afraid it would be too slow.

it is worth noting that while Quail Hollow can be walked, it is not for the feint of heart. There are plenty of hills, some quite high and requiring a decent distance to be traveled, that will provide both a physical challenge as well one to decent pace of play standards. I almost never use a cart anywhere else, but I almost always do here.

This is probably Boise's best golf, if you are here and get the chance, be sure to play!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

River Birch Golf Course

Played On 07/13/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Walked

Nice mix of straight forward and challenging holes

I like that a course names River Birch does it's best to get as many of it's trees into play as possible. There are several "shoots" to tee off through or to navigate on the fairway; keeping people wanting to try to take a little too much club honest.

There's not a ton of water on this (fairly uncommon) par 73 track, but much of it is situated so that it can be found by even moderately errant shots. Right out of the gate, the first hole gets you on your toes with not one but two ponds. It's a relatively short (486) par 5 with a corner that can be cut to reduce that a bit; however water awaits any attempt to do so that comes up short. I used a 7 iron off the tee and found myself in perfect position for my layup second shot. From there is was a short (129) wedge shot into the green.

It's not all target golf and exercises in club selection though, the number one handicap hole is a full grown par four. A dog leg right with three ponds stacked in the elbow, my 231 yard drive that cleared only the first one left me with 220 on my second shot. If you avoid the water altogether your driver will wind up in the rough (and you'll be a good 250 out). If you attack the second pond with anything less than 230-235 of carry you will be wet. Though flat as a pancake, this is just a good tough hole to play.

At 6515 from the blues RiverBirch is far from a monster (remember, it is also a par 73, so some of that distance is in the extra par 5). However, it does keep the challenge up by mixing in a few hole which, while not super long, are quite curvy and require either a very long and accurate tee shot, or conservative play. I tried both approaches with mixed results.

The staff in the clubhouse and the folks out on the course were all very nice and just the right amount of engaging. Pace of play was great, we came in in about 3:45 and never had to wait on any of the groups in front of us. Similarly, while we never really lost the group behind us, they were never waiting for us either.

Overall it was a great round of golf (although the Boise summer heat is in full swing and I was sweating profusely by the third hole (and we tee'd up at 7:08), so be prepared for that if you play in July or August.

I was in a chatty group and didn't get many pics today, but will try to get back out there and snap a few more soon.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Boise Ranch Golf Course

Played On 07/03/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Good deal for your money, especially if you play there often

The first thing I'll say about Boise Ranch is that it seems like everytime I play there alone I get paired up with a "regular" (usually playing on the very economical punch cards) and I've yet to get paired with someone I wouldn't call a great playing partner. If you have golfed much, you know this can sometimes be rare at clubs where people play often. The staff and grounds crew match this friendliness making this course always pleasant to play.

While not the toughest track in the area Boise Ranch does have plenty of hazards to keep players honest. On some holes club selection is important off the tee as it is possible to hit the ball too far and get into danger; the short par 4 third hole is a good example of this were a big driver (or even 3w) could easily find the fairway pond.

Unlike some of the other courses in the valley, Boise Ranch does not have a lot (if any) holes in which local knowledge is going to help much. There really aren't a lot of hidden shortcuts etc. as this course lays out pretty much the way it looks from the tee's. While there isn't a lot of elevation change on this course, there is a little and it is at least diverse; with a couple uphill par 3's and a nice elevated tee into a par 4.

The course has very few bunkers and some of them are more designed to stop errant (long) shots than to really challenge your approach to the greens. There also aren't very many trees that will cause you much trouble either; however, as mentioned above there is a decent amount of water to protect from scores getting too low. Most of it is avoidable if you properly manage the course, however.

Pace of play has been great everytime I have played at Boise Ranch and since one of my favorite lunch spots is down the street, it's one of my favorite places to get in an early morning round.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Warm Springs Golf Course

Played On 07/03/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Warm Springs makes less use of the adjacent Boise river than you might expect; however there is, nonetheless, plenty of water to avoid. This along with good angles and well placed bunkers provide a decent defense for the course.

Having said that, this is a course that can be attacked on certain holes. The par 4 2nd for example can be shortened considerably by either hitting a long drive over, or even a strong medium iron under, the second set of trees on the dog leg left. A similar high risk high reward shot awaits over water on #7. Both of these holes can be birdied fairly easily with a good tee shot, but can also lead to bogey or worse should you make a mistake. I found achieved both results with a birdie on 2 and a double bogey on 7.

I've played this course many times and enjoy the deer and other wildlife; each spring the course is teaming with baby ducks and geese. For a largely flat (there is only one elevated tee box to be found) course it is quite scenic.

Being on the river Warm Springs enjoys considerably more trees than many of it's sister courses in Boise. It does however, keep the grasses between fairways closely cut so this is a good place to keep lost balls to a minimum, provided you are able to avoid the ponds and creeks throughout the course.

Warm Springs is a nice course that will not punish you much unless your shot is truly errant and where, should you string together a few good shots, a rather good score can certainly come into play. I always enjoy playing here and do recommend it.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Centennial Golf Course

Played On 07/02/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Better and more challenging then it's rep, a nice treasure valley course.

Centennial is probably the course I have played the most over the years and as such I feel very at home there. I shot my first (and only, so far) round of par there as well, but it should not be confused as an easy course. In fact despite being thought of by some as an easy track, or one for beginners, all of it's tees have higher ratings and slopes than the majority of its area counterparts.

Centennial uses numerous angles, if even somewhat slight, and a considerable amount of water (especially on the back nine) to keep players honest. Most holes either have a dogleg of sorts or some water to avoid, or both. it's also long enough to require at least a decent drive to attack the greens. The only thing I really don't like about the course (other than the relative openness and lack of trees) is the generally short and approachable par 3's, all of which are under 150 yards. However three of them are protected at least in part by creeks running across the front.

If played right the par 5 6th hole is reachable in two (although this requires a blind shot over a hill to a green that features a left side that falls away to an out of bounds area.

Pace of play at Centennial can be a bit dodgy from time to time, but most of the time it is just fine, especially during twilight hours on weekdays when you can often turn in a three hours round with ease.

A nice course that will allow (require?) you to use most of the clubs in your bag and challenge you more than it's reputation would suggest, Centennial is a course worth playing in the treasure valley.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Difficulty Moderate

Shadow Valley Golf Course

Played On 06/24/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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No two holes alike (almost)

My favorite part of this track is that there are (almost) not two holes that are alike. You could argue that 10 and 12 are similar (dog leg left par 4's requiring either a relatively short tee shot, or a successful cutting of the corner over trees); however, even these holes differ quite a bit after you get beyond the general nature of the tee shot.

The short par 4 second hole is a perfect example of the interesting course elements in play here. After a short tee shot (I use a 7 iron unless I'm feeling bold and trying to cut part of the corner over trees - even then just a 5) you are left with another fairly short downhill shot (a wedge if you cut a little off the corner with a longer club, else an 8 or 9) into a shallow green with a creek running in front of it and OB on the other three sides.

Most of the holes on the front nine have some sort of roll or elevation change, while much (all but 2 holes) of the back flattens out. The back, however, features dog legs or other course elements on each hole to keep things interesting. There is more OB on this course than you will find on most Treasure Valley courses so if you are not shooting accurately you can go through quite a few balls; however it's a pleasure - both interesting and scenic - to play as long as you are fairly accurate.

I've seldom had issues with pace of play here, with things generally moving along quite nicely. The clubhouse folks are always welcoming and friendly as well. Shadow Valley is one of the better courses in the Boise area and certainly worth having toward the top of your "get out and play" list.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Royal Hawaiian Golf Club

Played On 06/09/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Short but still challenging and beautiful...

The back nine at Royal Hawaiian is pretty open and very playable; the front is called Jurassic Park and I was cautioned to bring a (few) backup sleeve(s) of ball(s). I got started on ten and my first nine (10-18) played as advertised. There was enough challenge to keep me interested, but nothing that would likely cause frustration as long as you are hitting your clubs decently (which, fortunately, I was).

There is some elevation change and, due to the relatively dry landing surfaces, plenty of roll to be found as a result (witness my 196 7 iron off the first tee). I played the black tees (not the tips here) which were only about 6000 yards; however, as the starter told me, it’s not the length that can get you here. I got through 8 holes 2 over and was feeling pretty confident (too confident, in fact, after hitting a practically perfect 3W 221 yards uphill off the tee, I proceeded to pull the ensuing wedge out of bounds and took a double going into the turn).

As we entered “Jurassic Park” I was reminded by a club staff person not to get too frustrated if I lost too many balls and I prepped myself for a difficult final nine. Ultimately; however, I didn’t lose any balls other than a couple of complete miss hits on my part (read: me trying to tin cup my way over a 220 yard carry that I had no business shooting for on this particular day). The fact of the matter is, the back nine (not unlike the front) is just not very long (3043 from the blacks) and almost every hole is approachable with mid irons off the tee. So, as long as you aren’t digging into your bag for your driver on every hole, you really don’t have to be in that much trouble (again, the only hole I really got in trouble on was when I got out my big(ish) stick and tried to be a hero). That was also the only double I had on the back and I was perfectly satisfied to card a 41.

What the front nine did allow me to do, and I really enjoyed, was work on shaping some shots with a real reward for doing so. The par 5 fourth hole, for example is reachable with a well-placed drive (the fairway is open enough to use a big club here without any real danger, I used a 3w) and a ~200 yard club with a draw (you have to bend it around a tree). I didn’t quite have enough draw to get on the green, but I was able to get around the tree and get close enough to chip on and leave myself a very makeable birdie putt. This was a perfect warmup for anther draw on the fifth (8i from 178… downhill) which led to a GIR on a relatively tricky green to reach without a solid drive (which I didn’t muster on that hole).

Long story made short (literally and figuratively) I found the front nine very playable, provided you have a little discipline off the tee. Additionally it turned out to be a decent test of golf, both from a shot making and course management standpoint.

Beyond the golf, this track (especially the front) is absolutely beautiful. Nestled in a valley, towering (yet very green) cliff walls surround you and jungle vegetation is lush and plentiful. They have recently cleared out a lot of growth, so there are currently some barren spots on some of the holes, but based on the plant life around these areas, I expect the “baldness” to be short lived. Royal Hawaiian is certainly scenic enough that even if you did have a frustrating day with your clubs, you can always look up and just enjoy your surroundings.

The staff was outstanding. Their enthusiasm for the course was noticeable from the minute we stepped out of the car. They were eager to help in any way and seemed truly bent on ensuring we had a great day.

As I mentioned above the course was a bit dry (but that certainly benefitted me from a golf standpoint). The greens were also a bit slow (they recently put in new grass that isn’t mature yet); however, they let me know about that right away when we arrived and insisted that we hit the practice green before playing to get the feel of them. This helped a lot, and, firing a slow greens (when you know they are slow) is never bad for scoring anyway. They were, despite being a little slow, in excellent shape.

I haven’t played any other courses on the island, so I can’t compare Royal Hawaiian anything here; however, I can say I’d play it again. In fact it is entirely possible I’ll sneak in another round before this visit to the islands is over.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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A lovely walk in the woods (and great golf too)

Moose Run was a “bonus round” on my trip, so I was able to take some luxuries that some of the other rounds didn’t afford (like not having to play in lightning speed), and this turned out to be a great course to do so on. I played the blues at Moose Run (the 6781/73.3/139 looking plenty tough to me) and quite frankly, the blacks might have ruined my day. I thought the course had plenty of challenge from where I played.

The design of the course is what struck me the most so I’ll start there. I’ve played several courses on this trip with split fairways (including one I highlighted at Forest Dunes that really forced a decision), but none of them were quite like number 5 on the creek course. There is no middle ground hazard to play out of (ala the sand at #6 – or #10 for that matter – at Forest Dunes) there is a full blown Alaskan wilderness forest between fairways (and given the black bear that had just been reported a few holes ahead, that is something to consider). The fairway to the left (the “shortcut”) is decidedly narrower, and requires a very precise shot to continue using the same ball for your approach; while the right fairway has a very generous landing area, but a considerably longer approach. The website has a flyover of the hole and it’s worth checking out before you go (or even if you can’t go).

There’s also the par 5 ninth which has a relatively small green protected by a late-breaking dogleg and a creek in front. My approach wound up being completely blind because I positioned myself a bit too far left and had a stand of trees between me and the green (and the creek, and the bunker…). It’s a fun hole, but certainly laid out to let you know if you misplay it.

Overall I thought the course played to it’s rating and provided a fairly stiff challenge. I played about three strokes higher (relative to rating) than I have over the last week or two of this trip. Many of the holes seem straightforward enough; however, elements like heavy bunkering at the choke point on 18 increase the premium on playing sold golf tee to green. For example, a poor tee shot - of less than 190+ or in bad position - on 18 makes laying up almost a necessity. Although, with a good tee shot (something I failed to produce on this hole, only getting 178) and you can play over the bunkers as if they aren’t there.

The course isn’t heavily bunkered, but the traps that are there are well placed. There isn’t a lot of water either (although the creek does come into play on a couple of holes); rather, the course uses its native timber land as its defense. With just enough bend in most holes to keep the forest in play for wayward shots, Moose Run requires accurate shots without being overly narrow.

From a purely aesthetic standpoint, this course is beautiful. It is cut straight out of Alaskan forest and if you walk the edges of the fairway and look toward the trees, in many places you might as well be on a mountain trail. The additional views of the many mountains surrounding the Anchorage area are terrific as well.

As it is a military course (the first I have played) I was a little nervous going into it about the service experience; however, everyone I encountered at Moose Run was welcoming and engaging (I’m still not certain the “if the bear’s hair stands up and his ears go back, it’s a sign he wants to be petted” advice was completely on-point though). At no point did I feel I was intruding or out of place as a civilian.

If you have a chance to play the Creek Course at Moose Run, I certainly advise doing so.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Great overall golf experience

Funny(ish) story, when I started my round at Gold Mountain, my wife and I went through our usual routine for this trip of selecting the tees I’d play based on rating, slope and distance; from what we read, we decided to play the blues (it was in the wheelhouse of the 120-125 slope we have been playing). As it turns out, it’s important to pay attention to which course you are playing as the 122 slope for the Cascade course is not the same as the 135 of the Olympic (the actual course I was playing). A few holes in, as I was commenting that this course seemed to play a bit tougher than its slope, we discovered this mistake.

That preface is necessary because I probably played the most complete round of golf I have played in some time, and still shot about 6 strokes worse than the scores I’ve been posting lately. The Olympic Course, at least from the blues, demands no less than your best if you want to post a decent score. That is not to say it is overly punitive or gimmicky in a way that will frustrate; it is simply long and complex enough to create issues for a bogey golfer who isn’t on top of his game.

The first thing I noticed (and really liked) was the high grass at the top of most of the bunkers. While the majority of the traps are smallish and fairly playable, the grass does add an extra dimension. Further, I actually had a tougher time playing out of that elongated rough the one time I was in it than either of the times my ball graced the traps.

The course is as beautiful as it is challenging and makes good use of its surrounding trees, water, and natural elevation changes to increase the value of both its aesthetics and playability. The short (271) finishing hole includes all of these elements and arguably the heaviest bunkering on the course as well. I teed off with a 7 iron and still almost hit it too far (admittedly I pulled the ball a little too far to the left trying to avoid the water front right). Fortunately my ball stayed in the yard and I was left with a wedge into the green. A little discipline is necessary here as it would be easy to grab too big a club and wind up out of bounds.

The par 3’s which range from 137 to 227 (downhill) are a good indication of the variety of shots required to navigate the course, as I used anything from a pitching wedge to my 3 wood to reach these greens in regulation. Ultimately, this round allowed (forced?) me to use every club in my bag except my 64 degree wedge (and you could argue I should have used that at one point, I just lacked the confidence to do so).

The pace of play was great as far as I can tell. I went off first as a single, but a group of two right behind me and a similar group behind them never lost touch. As I chatted with some folks near the clubhouse, the subsequent groups rolled in on time as well. The staff was also very friendly and helpful, adding to the overall experience.

I would recommend Gold Mountain to anyone with the chance to play it; and, since I have cause to visit the Seattle area fairly often, am sure I will play it again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Anchorage Golf Course

Played On 06/07/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Walked

Midnight golf! (and a nice track to too)

The first thing I have to say about Anchorage is that I only played 17 ½ holes; needing to concede number four to a mama moose who was bathing in the greenside pond (this just in… moose are *really* big in person). The second thing I have to say is that the staff at Anchorage is fantastic. I’ve now played in 50 states (in the last 50 days) and this group is easily among the best as far as service, commitment to the guest experience, etc.

There was also some golf. It’s rare for a 30 year old course to feel like a turn of the century “classic” but Anchorage really has that aged/mature feel. This is largely because it is forged from native timber so, while the course is newer, its fairway borders are most certainly not. I loved the feel of taking a walk in the wilderness while at the same time playing a round of golf. Because of civil twilight, I was also able to tee off at 10:00pm and play all 18 (finishing up around 12:30) which was also a unique experience.

I found the course quite playable (6628 from where I played from, the blues) and, until twilight started limiting my vision a little on the last few holes forcing me to switch to shorter irons, I felt like it was a course that I could post a pretty decent score on. Even playing my 7 and 8 irons off the tee’s, I was sitting on most of the greens with a par putt (albeit a long one).

None of this means this track lacks challenge though. Good use of angles and dog-legs keep the course protected and the greens from being assaulted too easily. I particularly liked #2 which, while somewhat short, had several golf elements in play. As you make the turn out of the dogleg you are faced with more of a rolling (well groomed) grassy waste than a fairway, putting a premium on your approach shot. It really felt like playing a par 4 and a par 3 on the same hole. There isn’t really much water on the course, nor did I consider the sand very “findable;” however, the rough forest landscape created plenty of challenge for wayward shots.

Unfortunately, based on the time of year I played (right after opening, and very shortly after the last snowfall) the greens and fairways were not at their absolute best. However, you can easily tell from the areas that are “coming in” it’s only a matter of time before the course will be in super shape and looks to support some rally fantastic summer golf. Even given its relatively recent emergence from winter hiatus, the course still laid out and played great.

The location is also convenient, just minutes from pretty much anywhere in Anchorage. Overall I just had a super experience at Anchorage Golf Course. Moreover we really enjoyed Alaska on the whole and certainly plan to visit again (and you can bet I’ll replay this course when we do!).

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate

Coeur D'Alene Resort Golf Course

Played On 06/06/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Beautiful resort course... more than just a floating green

The Coeur d’Alene Resort Golf Course is known world-wide for its floating green; and, I don’t mean to take anything away from that hole when I say, but it was not even in my top three favorite holes on the course. This track is immaculate from the first tee box to the final green and while, as a resort course, it plays a little easier (70.1/122 from the blues) than some, it has plenty of bite (and juniper) for wayward shots.

The planned cover shot for my book comes from a par three at CDA (#6)… not the floating green. My favorite par three that I’ve played (anywhere) is at CDA (#5)… also not the floating green (this might be my favorite hole, regardless of par, if it were a bit longer). None of this is to disparage the island green. There is a special feeling that I can’t really explain about teeing up a ball that has exactly one safe harbor, and then you need a boat (aptly named “Putter”) to get to it when you do land on the green. Just a heads up, don’t plan on “tin cupping” your way onto the 14th… they do have a mandatory limit to tee shots and a drop area on the island for pace of play reasons. As an aside, I’m not sure I’ve ever wanted to play the forward tee’s as much as on 14… with the exception of the bridge walk-way to access it, you are hitting island to island as the tee box stands by itself some 20 yards out into the lake.

My favorite hole was actually the par 5 11th with its long somewhat narrow fairway being escorted to the hole by a creek the entire length on the left. The approach requires clearing the creek to a green nestled into a hill. It’s just a great golf hole and, bottom line, Coeur d’Alene is a great course to play.

Coeur d’Alene is probably the first course I’ve visited where the combo tees are likely the perfect place for me to play as they stretch out the 5’s and 3’s enough to provide more of a challenge but keep the 4’s within reasonable shooting range (for me on a decent day). Some of the gold par 4’s (479/482) are just a bit much for my caliber of golfer to have a reasonable chance at par. I thought the bunkers were well placed and in excellent condition and they even had the requisite tree-in-the-middle-of-a-fairway hole to meet my “courses I love to play” criteria. The course mixes angles, distances, and elevation to provide a pretty complete golf experience and you will likely get to use all of your clubs and most of the shots in your bag throughout the round.

The staff experience at Coeur d’Alene begins with your (required) caddie, mine was terrific and really added to the experience. This was the second caddie I played with on this trip (3rd in my life) and was much more the experience I was (perhaps unrealistically) expecting. By the turn he was in tune with my game and was correctly speculating on clubs I would select. On 16 he corrected my club choice (I was looking at a 7i he pointed out that with the layout near the green my 8i with a little roll would be a better choice) and I wound up about 12 feet from the cup (we won’t discuss if I converted the birdie op or not, not even a great caddie can fix everything).

The rest of the folks I met at the course were great as well. The free sports massage is worth saving a little time for, and the driving range - hitting balls into the lake - is a unique experience (my home course has a pond for a driving range so I’m used to hitting into water, but that is just not the same as hitting into a mountain lake).

The price-point for the resort course is a little higher than you might be used to paying for golf, but I don’t know if I’ve ever felt that an expensive round of golf was more “worth it.” Clearly the money is being spent on the course as the conditioning is really as close to perfect as you can get on a golf course (and I’m saying this having played a couple days after it hosted a very large tournament).

This is the only course on my trip I’ve played twice, and I’ll probably play it again, so I can enthusiastically say I’d recommend it to anyone looking for a great round of resort golf.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
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