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Triggs Memorial Golf Course

Played On 05/17/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

"Old Growth Golf"

The first comment I made to my wife as we walked down the number 1 fairway at Triggs Memorial golf course was that this should be called “old growth golf.” Much like an old growth forest, parts of Triggs are a bit too scraggly and overrun to be called beautiful by some; however, if you appreciate a raw, natural environment, this oak scattered course may be just your cup of tea.

The trick to Triggs is that all of the playing surfaces are great, stay on them and you’ll be fine. The crew does a good job with the fairways and greens and I didn’t have a single issue with my situation following a good shot. It’s when you get a little off the beaten path things get more interesting. The rough is just that… unkempt, at times vengeful feeling, rough. There is not only inconsistency in the tall grasses that surrounds many of the fairways, but a relative disregard for fallen branches from the trees etc. It’s as if the areas that are not a part of the proper tee to green path are not really the province of the grounds crew. This is not to say they are completely neglected, just not overly doted upon.

Personally, I loved this. It’s a very different look and feel than most of the courses I’ve played where everything within the property is manicured, sculpted or at least maintained to promote or preserve a certain image. Triggs is 18 holes working their way through an actual living, breathing forest.

I was a little concerned when I saw that the driving range allowed only irons and that, even from the back, the course only stretched to 6522 yards; however, in part because of the rough terrain around the fairways and also because of a nice design and layout, this track boasts plenty of challenge. The 71.8 rating and 131 slope seemed spot on to me as I made my way around.

While similar in distance (200, 191, 200) the first three par 3’s are different enough to make this okay. The first is uphill and therefore plays longer while the second has water running right in front of the green. The last of the three’s is one that kind of exemplifies the course. Slightly downhill and much shorter in distance (158) than the others, you are still firing at a quite small and well protected green (featuring multiple bunkers across the front and sides with forest in the back). Despite looking inviting, Triggs never really gets easy.

It’s a Donald Ross course and as such the greens are typically small and well protected while the fairways are generally fairly straight but narrow. You don’t have to be able to move the ball side to side much to score here, but you do need to be able to place your shot where you want it. Not coincidently the short dogleg left par 4 16th was both the curviest and my favorite hole.

In addition to having cool forward tees that launch from an island tee box in the pond at the beginning of the fairway, there are two large trees that stand sentry over the green for any shot that isn’t quite long enough off the tee. This does not make this a grip-it-and-rip-it hole, however, as a shot too long off the tee will leave you out of bounds (or at least in trouble shrouded in trees). It would not be difficult to outhit this fairway at all. I used a 6 iron which was just enough club to clear the “guard trees” but not enough to put the far side of the fairway into play. From there it was a fairly routine 9 iron-putt-putt-par.

I started my round very early in the morning and was pleasantly surprised when the grounds keeper not only worked diligently to make way for me, but spoke to me about his schedule on the next few holes over one stretch (he was watering) so I would not have to worry if I saw sprinklers on a fairway as I approached. It was an over and above level of service I don’t see many places. While they were very busy in the clubhouse (especially after my round) everyone there was friendly and made time to talk to me and answer any and all questions I might have had. In short my service experience at Triggs was outstanding as well.

It did seem to be getting very busy as we were leaving, so an early tee time might be best. While I understand the non-manicured look might not be for everyone, I really enjoyed my round at Triggs and would certainly come back again if I was in the area. It’s a different, but in no way inferior, feel. Which, again, I really liked.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 06/20/2018

Nice review, thanks for sharing. Just one correction regarding the par 3s: there are 4 of them - a slightly uphill 4th hole, an even more uphill 7th hole, the slightly downhill 12th with the brook in front, and a even more downhill 14th that you don't want to hit over. The writer is spot on though in that this course rewards good shots and penalizes poor ones. Donald Ross would be proud how well it has held up.

Deerfield Golf & Tennis Club

Played On 05/15/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

If I had to describe Deerfield in a word, I would say “green, lush, and blind.”

If I had to describe Deerfield in a word, I would say “green, lush, and blind.” I really couldn’t decide between these options, so I’d have to let you choose. I don’t know if I’ve ever had this many blind shots in a round before (Potomac Shores in Virginia might be the closest thing). Between the thick trees, doglegs, and mid-hole elevation changes, it seemed like half my tee shots were taken without having seen the green.

That said, this is a lovely course. Dense vegetation lines most holes and the constant roll of the land keeps your vision largely confined to your own hole (often only half of it at a time) which left me feeling like I was playing largely alone (never a bad thing).

The 6323 distance didn’t give me much pause, but when I looked at the 136 slope I had to wonder where the challenge was. Largely, it is in elevation and direction change. The course features a large number of uphill tee (or approach) shots so it simply plays longer than the 6300+ yards. There are downhills, of course (what goes up must come down); however, in many cases they are the front end of a dogleg so you can only make up so much distance on them.

I’d go so far as to say the course is lightly bunkered (especially in the fairways), but that is just fine due to the large amount of forested area. Where they are needed they are present, for example on the elbow of #17, one of the few holes that isn’t tree lined, so that there is no free pass should you try to cut the corner and miss-hit your drive.

The track was in terrific condition with all of the playing surfaces rich in both color and texture. This was especially impressive for as early in the year as I played. The colors of trees were pretty in the relatively early spring, I can’t imagine how beautiful this course gets in the fall.

The first hole is a proper introduction to the course. It’s a dog leg left par 5 with 360+ yards to the corner. From there, the hole takes significant downhill tack to the green (a surface you will not lay eyes on until your third shot). You can cut off a little of the corner (especially if you on the right hand side of the fairway); however, because of how dense the vegetation is on the left hand side, just know that if you miss left, you are going to your bag for another ball.

My favorite hole was probably number 10; it’s a strong dogleg left from a very elevated tee box. Any notions of trying to cut over the trees below is tempered by a pond that sits just beyond the elbow and runs along the left hand side of the fairway. So, only the biggest of hitters (read: not me) should try to shave anything off here. That said, a good shot to the center of the fairway will leave you 260-270 to the green. This is a par 5, so that may not seem like a big deal, but the fairway gets very narrow as you pass the pond. As if that were not enough, you are then firing into a postage stamp of a green. No matter how you play this hole there is risk involved. But there is no denying it is a fun hole to play.

While Deerfield is not for the faint of heart, it is not indomitable either. I was not at my best and shot an 88 from the back tees. However, I never sniffed a birdie and, to do any real scoring I think you would absolutely have to have you’re “A” game going. Interesting/fun sidenote, I met a guy in the clubhouse (as I was leaving he was getting ready to play) and he sent me a note later on with a pic of his first ever hole-in-one from later that day.

That brings us to the make or break standard for me with new courses, the par three’s. Deerfield did not disappoint here. With distances ranging from 158 to 225(!!) yards, elevation changes, and generally different looks… they certainly provided the requisite variety of challenge.

The staff and groundskeepers were terrific, as were the players I met at Deerfield. Between all of this and a pretty brisk pace of play considering the various challenges the course holds, I can’t imagine why anyone wouldn’t want to play this course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Potomac Shores Golf Club

Played On 05/14/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Used cart

Great layout, almost every hole is "private"

I’ll preface this review by pointing out this was the first time I had played with accompanying media and, despite my protestations that it shouldn’t matter who you play with, it was an interesting experience because of that. He was there reviewing the course as well, my story was in addition to that, so I wasn’t the complete focus like later rounds, but still, it was something different and probably effected my overall experience moreso than my play.

We played the relatively forward silver tees which were well under 6000 yards and rated at 68.9 which was the lowest course rating of the 51 rounds I played on this trip. None of this contributed to a good score however, and I barely managed to stay below the mason Dixon line of 90 (carding a dog-fight-grind of an 89).

While I didn’t have many shots to write home about my best shot of the trip was on the par four 12th; a 188 yard 7 iron through a tiny gap in the trees onto the green. Which brings me to my first point about Potomac shores, there is no shortage of opportunities to make a phenomenal shot. Many holes offer risk/reward options and very often a so-so shot can be made up with a fantastic one. Having said that, it is worth noting that attempting that fantastic make-up shot can be particularly damaging to your score here, as there are a lot of areas where you simply aren’t getting your ball (or much distance) back if you fail to make the shot and a blow-up hole can quickly ensue.

Potomac Shores is a shot makers dream, and I’d love to play again (in fact I plan to play again) when I’m actually striking the ball well. I believe there is a real opportunity to post a low score here. The greens are generally well protected; both by approach angles as well as bunkering and elevation change.

The signature par five 10th hole is a beauty and a Nicklaus classic with an island of trees and long grasses splitting the fairway on your downhill approach shot. Placing your tee shot well is critical to having a reasonable second shot and setting up your approach. On a positive note, this hole is as scenic as it is challenging and, visually, you will love it the whole way. I was there in the spring, I can’t imagine how pretty it is in the fall.

Arguably my favorite part of Potomac Shores is that it is a trail of holes (one hole simply leads to the next) that progresses in a giant loop. There are almost no holes side by side, and even the few that are close don’t create a presence that is felt at all. I felt alone on the course all day. There are some long jaunts between holes and, as such, the course requires players to ride in a cart. As much as I prefer to walk, this is a good decision as it would simply take too long for groups to walk from one hole to the next in certain places and really effect pace of play.

Another unique feature is that the 18th and practice greens are on the same putting surface. From the 320 yard silver tees I played, your drive will probably get you close enough that you won’t feel intimidated by people warming up on the green you are hitting into. However, if I had been faced with a longer approach shot (e.g. from the 400+ yard back tees) this may have given me a moment of pause. For me, hitting a little wedge shot from about 85 yards, it was fun.

I found the staff very friendly and helpful all around, the only thing that I thought could really be improved was signage on the course. I picked up a yardage book in the clubhouse and it helped a bit; however, without it I think the decision on which way to drive after the first hole would have been a coin flip at best. Overall I thought this was a very nice course that played a little tougher than its rating mostly because the cost of an error is a little steep for a 68.9 (although, to be fair, this is probably adequately represented in the slope of 132).

I’d recommend this course to anyone in the area and intend to visit again when I get the chance.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Worthington Manor Golf Club

Played On 05/13/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Wet weather
Walked

A real challenge from the tips, absolutely beautiful course

My morning at Worthington Manor was cold, wet, and wonderful. If you look closely at any of the pictures that include me, you’ll notice I’m wearing two gloves, which only happens on really cold days. However, no amount of rain or cold could ruin this good walk.

Playing from the tips, Worthington’s rating (74.7) and slope (145) threaten to challenge you; and they deliver on that promise. Beyond the 7000+ yards, there are plentiful turns, tight targets, deep extended rough and elevation changes to test your game. None of that, of course, includes the bunkers, greens, and water hazards which are also very much in play throughout this track. There are multiple holes where you are facing more than just added distance by playing all the way back, as the angles can dramatically change where you can effectively place your ball on the fairway.

Having said all of that, even from the back, the course is playable and there are very few holes which would cause too much trouble if you played them decently. The par three 17th might be the exception to that as you will need a good 200 yards of carry off the tee and you are essentially firing through a shoot of trees most of the way. The tee is elevated, though, so you don’t need a full 200 yard club to clear the creek in the front of the green.

This course is built on a watershed, and there are subsequently very few holes where you are not having to carry a decent amount of marshy waste area or water of some kind. Worm-burners off the tee here will frequently cost you a ball. The first and second holes are great examples of this; both requiring a roughly 200 yard carry to the elbow of a dogleg left. Because you are firing into a dogleg, the depth of your landing area is naturally reduced. The script is somewhat flipped on the long (437 yards) par 4 third, where the marsh carry is to the green; which, because of the length of the hole is going to be a longer iron for most players (without a good tee shot, this could quickly become a hole that plays as a par 5, requiring a layup shot before your approach). You get the idea, Worthington Manor will make you play some golf.

What you will not be challenged by, is finding a good view. This course is beautiful both in layout and environment. Surrounded by trees and rolling over and through countless hills Worthington has as many vistas as it does divots. The tee to green, everything is in terrific condition with nice sharp lines between cuts and putting surfaces that roll true (they were a little slow the day I played because of the rain, but my understanding is that on most days the pace is very good as well). As eluded to above, the design of the course is great, placing as high a premium on course management as ball striking.

The staff at Worthington were also commendable. Overtly friendly and helpful they were a significant feature and added considerable value to my visit. I talked to one of the guys for a few minutes about my trip and the experiences we have had. From the stories of my rounds thus far, he was able to identify holes in which I’d be likely to score and how I should go about doing it (as well as which ones I should simply manage and live to fight another day). By the time I was on the course, I felt like I had already played a practice round; and this helped… more than a little.

To me, if you are in the area, Worthington is a must play. I’m very excited about trying to get back out there and squeeze a round in during my next trip back east.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
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First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

I liked the plentiful water features...

I’ll preface this by saying that I played in RAIN at The Woods. I have (quite literally, no hyperbole here) never been this wet when I wasn’t actually immersed in water. I had the first tee time set up (months in advance, actually). But a member and regular showed up and wanted to go out first and I had no problem with it so off she went. I believe it was on the second fairway we ran into her as she was heading back to the clubhouse, abandoning her round… it was that kind of day. Somewhere around the 14th hole I stopped playing into the greens due to the amount of standing water present (and my fear that I would start plugging balls and ruining the greens). However, when you are playing 50 rounds in 50 states in 50 days, you get what you get… and what I got was soaked.

Having said all of that I really enjoyed my round at The Woods (once you accept that you are wet, and are going to be wet… it’s not that big a deal, really). With par threes called “the ball washer” and “dam hole,” a drivable par 4, and an uphill cross ravine tee shot that is fully capable of making your hair stand on end; there is pretty much something for everyone here.

My favorite hole was probably the par 3 ninth. It’s only 134 yards, but you are firing from an elevated green through a shoot of trees and carrying water all the way up to the front of the green. The landing surface is shallow, although there is a backstop of a hill behind the hole that offers some protection. I hit an easy pitching wedge, which was almost too much club into the green and finished with a two putt par.

The downhill 313 yard (although I’d say it plays closer to 250) par 4 sixteenth hole is fun as well. The course description calls it an eagle hole, but with no real protection on the front left of the green, I can see a regular player having legitimate albatross aspirations whenever they see a left side pin placement.

Always a fan of in-play water, I like that at least 8 holes include some sort of pond or creek. Relatively straight and with few bunkers, The Woods relies on these features and the wooded areas lining the fairways for protection. As the 125 slope would indicate it is slightly above average in difficulty, stretching out to 6621 this track sports decent length and does allow you to use the majority of your clubs along the way. I found it manageable, with no blow up holes despite the less than ideal weather; however, did have a higher than usual count of 12 bogeys on the round (against only one birdie).

The course was a great shape, very green and well maintained. The new sand on several of the greenside bunkers was strikingly white and created a terrific contrast against the deep greens. Additionally, the rain didn’t prevent the rather abundant wildlife from cavorting with us. We saw deer (pretty domesticated and undaunted by me playing through) on multiple holes, and plenty of other critters as well.

The pro-shop is small in comparison to a lot of the courses we have visited. But they did have exactly what we needed with regard to rain gear for Melanie etc. and they were as friendly and inviting a group as you could want. The folks out working on the course were great too, even if they did call me crazy more than once for playing under these conditions.

Overall I had a great time at The Woods and the biggest disappointment we ran into was probably the challenge in capturing good pictures the rain presented. I’d love to get back and play it on a nicer day… but I’d go back again even if it was raining as well.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Heritage Hill Golf Club

Played On 05/10/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Great design, enough challenge without being overly punitive

I had the first tee time at Heritage Hill and about 10 minutes before that time as I was warming up around the tee box, the group behind me encouraged me to go. I was hesitant because, well, it wasn’t my time just yet. However they insisted, speaking about how they played almost every day and would handle any flack that might otherwise come my way. They were friendly, fun and (eventually) got me off the tee box early. If *that* is the “worst” part of your day on a course, you’ve probably chosen your track well.

The course was in fantastic condition and quite frankly, I was ready to start writing my review after the third hole. Heritage Hill doesn’t waste anytime piquing your interest with a lovely (200+ yard) elevated tee shot into a green that is well protected on the right (although there is some respite on the left) on the par 3 second hole. This is followed by the par 4 third with one of the coolest and most visually pleasing tee boxes I’ve hit from on my trip.

I played from the tips and it is a lengthy track from back there, 7142 yards with a 72.8/136 rating/slope. The rating is a little low for that distance (in my experience) which is probably because most of the holes have rather generous landing areas, making it relatively easy not to get into too much trouble off the tee. Most of the difference from the regular tees to the back is distance; however there are a few holes where the angles matter. Eleven and to a lesser degree sixteen come quickly to mind. On #11 the angle into the par 3 green really cuts down on the play you have in your shot and at 170+ yards (read: you’re not firing in there with a wedge), this starts to matter.

I found the bunkering on the first three or four holes to be both light and ineffectual as far as keeping the course honest; however, after that the traps increased significantly in both volume and practical value. On both nine and ten, for example, I don’t think you could put bunkers in better strategic places to maintain the integrity of play. As mentioned above, the course protects itself largely with distance, although there is also a little water here and there.

Other than #18 there really aren’t any really tough angles or holes where a premium is placed on where you leave your drive. Even there it’s really just a matter of how much water you want to carry, I don’t think there are any holes where being on the wrong side of the fairway cuts off a significant part of the green. While this makes play a little less strategic, I really enjoyed being able to “just play golf.” Move around the course putting together one decent shot after another without being overly focused on threading a needle in order to set up a decent shot for my approach.

This course plays to a nice mixture of challenge and forgiveness as you really have to make some pretty big mistakes to take the proverbial blowup hole (I can imagine #2, #11, #16 and #18 causing some consternation on the wrong day though). This is how I feel a course should be designed, tough to score upon, but also forgiving enough to properly reflect an average round (many courses set up to overly penalize average play, Heritage Hill will not do that). As such I really enjoyed my round from the course design standpoint.

We also had a great experience when it came to the staff at the course. In the clubhouse everyone was friendly and helpful; however, the gold medal goes to the gentleman we had a lengthy conversation with after the round. Such a great guy and so many fantastic stories. That personal touch really made a great day even better.

Pace of play was great (as you might imagine being playing as a single and going off first), with the foursome behind us playing with us the entire way (and the group behind them right on their heels. This was particularly impressive since we turned in a 3:15 round. I can’t speak for the afternoon pace, of course, but if this is any indication I can’t imagine ever having any pace issues in the morning.

I really enjoyed Heritage Hill and if I find myself in the state again will almost certain make a point of visiting and playing here again. If you live in the area, be sure to go!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Response from on 07/27/2017:
Thank you so much for the kind and in-depth review! We appreciate you making the trip out to the course and are glad you had such a wonderful experience! P.S. Great Pictures!

RedTail Mountain Golf Club

Played On 05/09/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Wet weather
Walked

Beautiful mountain course with significant elevations changes (up to 260 feet)

I’m going to preface this review by saying the day we played Redtail it was cold, wet and foggy, with an emphasis on wet…

The main point in starting with that is to let you know in advance that the pictures from Redtail are not going to do it justice, the weather just was not conducive to taking great pictures. What the weather couldn’t do; however, was ruin a terrific track and despite getting very wet, we really enjoyed this course.

One of the things I liked, in retrospect, was that Redtail starts you off “easy.” The first few holes are below the mountain where you can get your swing calibrated and build a little momentum. Further, after the up and down of the mountain holes, there are a few relaxing low land holes at the end as well to ease you into the club house.

In between you’ll find some of the most scenic and interesting golf around. Winding up and down the face of the hills, elevation change becomes a staple of almost every hole beginning with the 75 foot ascent to the green on #5 and culminating with the roughly 200 foot drop on the par 4 fourteenth.

Nothing quite matches number 12 though. The hole drops about 230 feet tee to green, and around 260 from the tee box to its low point in front of the green. This may be one of the most protected greens you’ll ever see when it comes to trying to get on the deck in two (it’s a par five). The hole is located at a 90 degree angle from the end of the fairway, with a rise and forest defending against attempting to cut the corner. As if all of that isn’t enough, there’s also a small rock wall in front of the green. It’s truly a fun and unique hole.

Another thing not to miss is the old burial ground tucked away on the right hand side of the fairway as you head downhill on number 14. It's very cool, but easy to miss.

One of the least bunkered tracks I’ve played on this trip (at least the mountain stretch, there are a few more on the low-land holes), Redtail mostly relies on elevation and angles to defend itself, and it does a fairly good job of it. However, what I really liked was that, while the course design does make it tough enough that it’s hard to really “destroy” the course; at the same time, if you play smart and take what the course gives you, it’s certainly possible to post a good number.

We found the staff to be simply wonderful. In fact probably the only thing “unreasonable” about our experience was them apologizing for the weather (obviously, there’s nothing they could do about it). Since we were, by and large, the only people crazy enough to play on this particular morning, I can’t say too much about the pace of play in general. However, we went out first and I was playing alone and it still took me nearly 4 hours walking. The moral of the story is, use a cart here if you want to finish in a reasonable amount of time.

If you are a shutterbug, bring your camera as there are no shortage of vistas and views and if you are golfer, bring your whole bag, because you will have a chance to use it all. We really enjoyed Redtail and would certainly return and play (a hopefully dryer round) again.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Walked

Barrier island golf with a good variety of holes.

When I was researching courses to play in South Carolina, one of the first thoughts I had was wanting to play on a barrier island. As I was scanning reviews and pictures of courses I ran into a picture of a sign that read “please don’t feed the alligators.” It was at this point that the courtship between the Ocean Winds course at Seabrook Island Resort began.

Ocean Winds, perhaps surprisingly, doesn’t offer a ton of ocean views, but it doesn’t promise that. What it implies, and delivers on, is stiff ocean breezes as you work your way around the course. This is especially true of the back nine which is far more open – both in the width of the fairways and the vegetation around them – than the front.

Indeed, the front and back nine’s are quite different. The front has numerous dense stands of tall trees and very narrow fairways, especially (at least the way I play) in the landing areas. Being a little bit off could easily leave you in the woods, likely in a place dense enough to require a pitch out rather than a recovery shot. Between the distance lost on the shot that hit the trees and the often necessary escape shot, bogeys come easy should you misfire on a tee shot.

The tradeoff is that it’s a beautiful stroll filled with wildlife, we saw deer on multiple holes for example, through some pretty straight forward (literally and figuratively) holes. Without a lot of angles or elevation changes, you can rely on your stock club length and a mistake is never compounded by leaving yourself short sided on a dogleg.

While the fairways on the back are still a bit narrow, the landing areas open up more than on the front. More significantly though, there are far fewer trees and as such this side of the track is more forgiving to a slightly wayward tee shot.

This does not mean the course suddenly get easy, however. The open spaces invite winds coming off the ocean and those breezes seldom decline to attend. A slight fade can turn into a slice fairly quickly by catching a prevailing wind. The good news is that recovery is much more likely, even for significantly more unwieldly shots.

There are relatively few bunkers on this course, not really needed because of the tree and wind protection. However, there is a decent amount of water to keep you honest as you move your way around. We found the course to be in very good condition.

I found the staff to be quite attentive as well as being very friendly. This included a 10-15 minute “tutorial” in the pro-shop on different grass types and how to properly care for the course (e.g. divots and ball makrs on the green) while you are playing on each type. This may have been the most instructive 15 minutes of my trip! Also, not overly surprisingly based on the “do not feed” sign… we found the gators to be, if not friendly, at least not overly aggressive.

Overall the experience at Seabrook Island was really good. I’d certainly enjoy returning and playing the Oaks course as well.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Walked

Worth the trek...

Teeing off at 2:00 pm in Georgia can be a rather warm experience, and my afternoon at The Lakes at Laura S Walker state park was no exception; by 2:10 I had a nice sweat going. Fortunately, this really isn’t a bad place to be, if you have to be overheated. With plenty of trees and forested areas, The Lakes does offer some escape from direct sunlight, and some lovely scenery as you make your way around the course.

Relatively flat, this course relies on a lot of turns and strategically placed bunkers for defense. In particular, they are fond of having traps on the inner elbow of their doglegs so any attempt to cut a corner that comes up short will result in sand play on your second shot. Number 12 also uses a large bunker in the center of the fairway to mitigate the relative shortness of the hole.

The Par five 13th is also a good example of the angles and trees used for green protection with your third shot needing to navigate a gap in a stand of trees into a green protected on the left by approaches from the center or left hand side of the fairway and on the right from anything coming from the right. I often ignore pin placement sheets before my rounds, but on this hole it would be a good idea to know the position before beginning in order to maximize your second shot.

There are also… some other hazards to avoid… The course’s web site mentions alligators as a hazard of play and on this track, this proved to be quite true. We ran into several along the way, two of them “in play” sun bathing along the left hand side of the fairway on the 8th hole. Relatively docile in the afternoon heat, given 20 yards or so of space, they didn’t seem to really pay any attention to use at all (since the course won the 2011 “best place to hook a kid on golf” national aware, I felt comfortable with the staffs comments that the gators don’t pose any real threat as long as you give them a bit of space). There are all sort of critters living around the course, including the largest turtle population I have ever seen. In short there’s no shortage of things to see as you make your way around this course.

The victim of intense heat and not much in the way of rain when I played there, you can still see how nice this course could be with a bit more water. As mentioned above trees are plentiful and the course makes good use of the three ponds scattered across the property. The fairways, in general are fairly generous and you can certainly keep the ball in bounds with average striking; however, be aware that a truly wayward shot is likely gone as the forested areas get pretty thick and a ball hit in there is likely lost.

The staff was exceedingly friendly/welcoming and the pace of play was great (although in the heat of the day the course was fairly sparsely populated). As you might guess by the 6000 yard length and 68.9/119 rating/slope (from the whites where I played, it does stretch to 6600/71.9/122 from the back), it’s not the toughest course you’ll ever play; but, sometimes, it not about the challenge. If I had it to do over again, I’d make sure I got an early morning start time for my round; however, other than that I think The Lakes is well worth you time.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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More than just a quarry course... but... that quarry!

From lush playing surfaces, and breathtaking quarry views, to Spanish moss clad trees and quick challenging greens; Black Diamond Ranch will not leave you wanting for atmosphere or golf. You don’t need the quarry holes for this track to be special, but they certainly don’t hurt.

From a golf perspective (playing from the tips) I was a little worried that the 7000+ yards and 73+ rating would be a bit much; however, other than being a little narrower than some of my drives in places, I only really found one hole should have been a serious challenge. Hitting into a 25+ mph wind, the par three 17th was positively menacing. Ironically, it was not my worst hole… that distinction goes to number 16, where a drive that was too good (penalty) and an approach that was way too bad (penalty #2) led to a triple. However with the wind, the 200+ yard tee shot on 17 was absolutely the most difficult shot to try to pull off on the course (especially for a guy with a natural baby fade on his longer irons).

All of the quarry holes are unique and challenging in their own way. With the afore mentioned wind, I was forced to hit a knockdown 2 iron off the elevated 15th tee box (fortunately this shot was just about perfect and left me with a wedge into the green and an easy par). Number 14 is an all-you-can-eat horseshoe of a par five in which I bit off about 10 yards more than I could chew… leaving me with a rather awkward second shot.

It’s easy to forget the country club feel of the first several holes once you play through the quarry; however, they are well laid out and fantastically maintained. Several of the holes have rather narrow landing areas and the thick vegetation around the fairways can lead to some interesting shots if you are a little off target. The good news is that most of these spots are still recoverable and likely won’t cost you more than a single stroke.

The Quarry course is another that I played on this trip that isn’t inundated with bunkers, but the traps that are present are placed very well and certainly in play. There is also very little water in play; however, the large pond on number 9 does offer a tempting risk/reward drive decision. It’s a par five that is reachable (albeit into a smallish protected green) if you clear the water… obvious problems exist if you come up short (I didn’t try).

I’ve read about some issues with staff and members; I did not experience any of these problems. I was welcomed and have a delightful conversation with the starter and the head pro after my round. There was a little confusion at the beginning of my round about who I was and why I was there, but it was straightened out in relatively short order (and could have been helped by my introducing myself better).

Overall my experience at Black Diamond Ranch was great and I’d certainly give it another whirl if I were back in the area again.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

FarmLinks at Pursell Farms

Played On 05/04/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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A course that makes me wish there was a sixth star for special occasions...

My handicap is currently (a very generous) 11.9. Farmlinks recommends players with a 1-5 handicap play the Copperhead tee’s and 7-15 play the whitetail’s. So guess what I did?

I found Farmlinks to be every bit of its 73.0 rating from the Copperhead’s. I shot what was probably my best round in several years, and still couldn’t do any better than an 87. The back nine bit me early and often as I took 3 penalty strokes on the first 5 holes. Other than that, though, I manage bogey golf most of the way with a smattering of pars (I never even seriously challenged for a birdie).

There are plenty of good golf shots to be made on this course and some aww inspiring vista from various tee boxes. I’m not sure anything eclipses the view from the 180 yard 17th tee box, shooting down at a green completely protected in front by a large pond (large enough to appear to be more of a river from the tee box. Even this shot, though, can be made relatively safe if you take enough club as there is a backstop hill to corral any shots that run a little long.

Unless you are playing the Longhorn tee’s (nearly 500 yards longer than the more-than-challenging-enough Copperheads) Farmlinks is reasonable in length (6970 from where I played, 6457 from the tee’s recommended for my handicap) and difficulty. It will challenge you without compromising your outing with undue frustration. With 6 sets of tee’s there is a course for everyone here. This is especially true because most of the greens are not overly protected with the course using distance and angles to add difficulty to the more challenging tee boxes.

While challenging, the thing that really struck me about Farmlinks was its simple beauty. Every hole feels more “crafted” than “designed” and the care and maintenance that is put into the course is obvious at every turn. Course conditions were as close to perfect as I can imagine, and the layout is terrific as well. Going out first was an absolute treat as it felt as though we had the course all to ourselves, and it’s not often you get that feeling on a course this breathtaking.

When people talked to me about Pursell Farms they spoke of being made to feel like a guest, or even family, rather than a patron. After spending a day on the farm, I completely understand where this impression comes from. Various members of the staff made their way over to us at different times while we were there and inquired about our experience at Farmlinks; however, beyond that, they also asked about us. We left Pursell Farms feeling like I had just come from a visit. The course is great, but Farmlinks is more of an “experience” than a round of golf.

We will almost certainly return, probably to stay a few days on the properly itself.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Good, solid, competitive course

At Mississippi State University, like almost all of the courses on my trip, I had the first tee time set up for me so I could get on the course, play rapidly and get on the road to the next state after the round. When I arrived I had a small group of people ask if they could play before me, as they regularly had the first tee time and were hoping to get their round in as quickly as possible. They promised I wouldn’t have to wait for them, and they were good on their word. Pace of play was strong beyond them as well, as all of the groups we observed after our round were coming in quickly also.

MSU was my second adventure with playing the tips and the first one where I really felt the distance on a few holes. There are some rather long approaches from the back, including the 240 yard par 3 15th which, between water and a waste area, is almost all carry. The par 5 7th is also daunting from the championship tees, but more manageable as you move forward.

I especially like a run of holes along the back, 7 through 9, which skirt a large pond and use it to protect the left hand side of the fairway. The course is not resplendent in bunkering; however, the traps they do have are placed well to keep play honest. This is clearly a course used for tournaments and up to providing the challenges they demand. It’s not the type of course where you are likely have a blow-up round (even from the very back), but scoring chances are at a premium from those tee’s nonetheless.

The course was in very good shape and (more importantly to me) the architectural design is strong. Lacking in abundant altitude change this track makes the most of the rolling hills it does have to create layout elements that force a player to consider multiple ways to attack various holes. My score did benefit a bit from a significant amount of ground under repair, as they are introducing a host new trees to the course which should improve the challenge it poses even more.

I found the staff and grounds crew accommodating and pleasant and the other patrons warm and friendly as well. Everyone seemed welcoming and glad we were visiting. MSU was a fun course to play and I would certainly make a point to take a turn at it again (especially once some of those trees come in) if I were in the area.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

The Atchafalaya at Idlewild

Played On 05/02/2017
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5.0
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Fantastic course, arguably better staff

I have done 50 official course introductions for this trip (and a few unofficial ones as well). I’ve also done one substitute introduction for a new course in Arkansas when Pleasant Valley didn’t work out at the last minute. Exactly once, in all of those intro’s, has anyone from the general public commented on anything other than the course (I receive lots of “you are going to love that course” type messages). That exception was about Atchafalaya, and it manifest itself in well over half of my comments and messages being about Ed, the head golf pro.

So, before heading to Louisiana, I had been forewarned; if you don’t want meet one of the nicest golf pro’s in the business, steer clear of Atchafalaya. As it turned out, this advice was spot on. Ed is, indeed, a credit to his calling and just a great person to spend a few minutes (or, quite probably hours) with.

Many of the accolades that were passed on to me focused on the course, and like Ed, it did not disappoint.

We tee’ed up first, so there certainly were no pace of play issues for us, but even the groups we saw making their way through later in the day were moving along fine. Everything seems to run very efficiently and the staff and grounds people are all very friendly and helpful.

The golf itself was great and the course conditions fantastic. I’d say the front was in better shape than the back because the second half of the course is more open and they hadn’t had a lot of rain when we came through, but that’s like calling Pebble a little less recognizable than Augusta; both sides played terrific. There was a heavy mist on the ground when we started and the rough was a touch “grabby” as it was thick and wet, but nothing overly punitive and this was mostly over by the 4th or 5th hole. It was plenty warm by the time we finished our round so I, personally, would deal the dew every time.

The course, as you might imagine, has ample water hazards; featuring them on more holes than not. However they make play interesting in more ways than just that. The par 5 6th, for example, encourages a 200’ish yard club off the tee instead of a driver and then offers an interesting risk/reward second shot over some trees on the left hand side (I felt the sting of the risk on my second shot, but would take and recommend the same approach again the next time through).

Don’t get so focused on the golf that you miss the plentiful scenery. As you make your way up the second fairway, keep an eye out to your right for the wooden cabin nestled in the woods. Also, note the abundance and variety of wildlife that makes the course its home. Between the interesting pink and white flat-billed bird we saw in a pond on the first tee, a baby gator on the 10th, and myriad of other critters in between, it is clear you are playing in a thriving habitat.

Overall, this was a great day on the golf course. Not only would I come back and play again, my wife and I have already actively discussed doing so.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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a tale of two nines

When we arrived at Pleasant Valley country club this morning to play our round we found the club closed (still) from the storms that had just come through the region.

We quickly fired up all 37 (3) of our electronic devices and started scanning for courses in the area. Few were open and even fewer with tee times available, however Burns State Park came through for us.

Burns is a municipal course (we actually found them on the local CVB web page) within a state park that has two 18 hole courses. We played the more challenging Championship course, which has hosted the Arkansas Open Championship for 26 years. Teeing it up on the first hole, this appeared to be a municipal golf course in every sense of the word, including this gem just off the third fairway…

However as we went, the course – while still quite flat – started tightening up. It could be argued that the par 5 fourth hole played as hard (from the blues) as any hole I have played on this trip. It’s flat as a pancake, but the landing area off the tee is tiny (getting smaller the further you hit it). I tried to hit a draw and would up hooking it behind a thick set of trees bump and running my way up the hole.

Still, all and all the front nine was benign to say the least. However, the back nine was more than a surprise; comparatively, more of a revelation. Teeing off form the elevated #10 tee I felt like I was playing on a mountain course.

Number 11 improved on that with a creek running down the left hand side of the hole, crossing just beyond the landing zone and an uphill approach from there. #12 played from an elevated tee, down into a valley, but then right back uphill for the approach. Melanie and I discussed the possibility of having accidentally jumped onto a different course. This hits just kept coming after that, including this lovely little bridge to the 15th green.

By the time we walked off the 18th green I was more than pleasantly surprised by the course. It would be a great place to play nine (the back nine), but on the whole for a walk-on week day round (I was one of two people I saw on the course throughout the round) it was a fun little course.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy

Cherokee Hills Golf Club

Played On 04/30/2017
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5.0
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Very well designed course

I’ll preface this all by saying I am not going to address the condition of the course beyond this paragraph. Tulsa was hit by a major storm system (multiple systems actually) yesterday (when I was supposed to play). The course was closed due to rains yesterday (the same rains that caused major flash floods throughout the region). So, while there were some elements of the course that weren’t great from a condition standpoint… none of that was the fault of the crew or staff. Frankly, it’s pretty amazing they had it in shape to play today. I will say that given the conditions, the course does appear to be in great shape, outside of the water on it as a result of the storm.

Ignoring the condition and focusing on the layout of the course is a pleasurable exercise. This is a well-designed course featuring plentiful elevation changes, fantastic tee locations and some fairly complicated approach shots if you don’t leave yourself in good shape off the tee. Course knowledge is a plus (the carts are handy as they display the holes, with distance and even have a “fly over” feature), I didn’t bother to check out the layout of the fairway on #2 and was hurt by thinking the fairway would open up in an area it doesn’t.

Shot placement really matters on some of the holes as greens can be quite protected by mature trees if assaulted from the wrong angle. The course only plays 6298 from the blues, but it feels considerably longer than that due to the judicious use of doglegs to control distance off the tee. I don’t often hit a driver, but I’m not sure (even if I were more inclined to do so) that I’d hit many on this course. It does lengthen out to a healthy 6855 from the tips; however, there is plenty of challenge from the blues. Even the 5894 whites are not a pitch and putt because the course is so well crafted.

The greens at Cherokee are worth mentioning as well. They were healing from a good sanding (the rain probably helped me there, actually), but I thought they were still rolling well. There is quite a bit of contour and flow to them though, and I found myself quite capable of misreading a putt here and there. Do take your time and read them carefully before your putts, of you could give a few strokes back that you shouldn’t.

Again, this is the kind of course you can play just to enjoy the views. Playing up, down and around a hill on the property there is no shortage of photo op moments if you want to make your buddies back home envious of your round. A couple of the greens are protected by rock outcroppings as well with #6 being an absolute beauty of a hole from tee to green (ruining my recently conceived notion that #5 was my favorite hole on the course).

I rode today, mostly because of the recent rains and the wetness of the course; however, with the elevation change it might not be a bad idea in general. Not that it can’t be walked (and, in fact, I would if the weather leading up to my round was a little better), but there is enough of a hike that it’s worth mentioning.

The staff was friendly and accommodating in the pro shop. Usually I exchange at least a few words with the grounds crews of the courses I play; however, that Cherokee Hills they were far too busy restoring the course from the storm for me to interrupt their work.

Overall I had a great time at Cherokee Hills and would certainly come back again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Buffalo Dunes Golf Course

Played On 04/28/2017
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5.0
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A great course, I underestimated at first...

So - to start with - I have to admit, I selected Buffalo Dunes to play in Kansas because I liked the satellite photo of the course fitting into a “crop circle” in the middle of the Kansas plains, not for the course. As we pulled in and saw the banner for the National Junior College Championship that is about to be played there, it started to occur to me that I may have underestimated the course.

Still, I began playing from the backs as I have for the last several rounds. A few holes in my wife asked me to guess the course rating (I said I didn’t have a clue but it was harder than I thought it would be), and she then told me it was a 74.0.

Tight fairways, limited landing points, and grass that is more than capable of completely swallowing a ball without a spotter are just a few of the things that can catch you if you are playing back and not careful on this course. There are also well placed water, bunker hazards, and at least a little pitch or roll on almost every hole to keep you honest. I skipped those for the most part and focused my errant attention on grass areas and trees.

The point being that this is both a beautiful (the course pro called it an oasis, and that is a perfect description) and challenging course; one that I had truly underestimated. The course itself (all playing surfaces) was in fantastic shape. An early season and relatively light traffic both helped with that. The greens were rolling well and all of the cuts were in pristine shape.

Based on my observations of the white tees, I think – from there – the course is still very playable for the average golfer. So, while there is plenty of challenge for those seeking it, Buffalo Dunes should play great for anyone who want a more casual round as well.

Probably the most benign part of the course in my opinion were the greens. There was a little break everywhere, but no real benders to challenge your “shot making” ability. Having said all that, it was probably my worst day putting on this trip, so maybe I underestimate them as well. But the important part is they were well maintained and played fair.

The hospitality from the grounds crew (and really everyone at Buffalo dunes) deserves mention as well. They are clearly proud of their plains gem (and rightfully so) and eager to both share it and ensure people want to come back for more than just the golf. The service and attention we received was fantastic. I really can’t recommend Buffalo Dunes enough, it’s a little remote, but well worth the drive.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Cochiti Golf Club

Played On 04/26/2017
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5.0
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A solid "southwest" golf experience

As the last course on my “Southwest Swing” Cochiti was, by far, the most “Southwest” (at least in the sense of what I expected going into the rounds). High desert surroundings (Sage Brush, small scraggly trees, dried grass and rocks) frame lush fairways and greens creating a strikingly sharp contrast.

I found Cochiti in great shape. They had just aerated, but that in no way effected my round. The greens were in rolling well (although we did have to fix a few extra ball marks along the way, certainly not the courses fault), the fairways were well groomed, and - while wet from the previous days rain - the rough was manicured and fair (I know because I spent more time than usual there).

I also enjoyed the layout of the course. Rather than try to ensconce the natural elevation changes of the environment into the course, they were used to create contrast wherever possible. This is a Robert Trent Jones course, and it shows. “Vista point” elevated tee’s, requiring a decent carry over native areas to be safe, dot the course; and the desire to take out my camera and capture yet another cool tee shot was a repeating theme.

I played the blues which are almost 600 yards longer than the whites. Mostly the difference was just distance, but there were a few where it changed the way I attacked the hole. I appreciated this, as I don’t play the back just so I can use a longer club from the tee box.

I found the staff very friendly, especially the starter who verbally walked me through most of the challenging holes on the course when he found out I was a first time player. This was especially valuable on #10 which has a large water hazard invisible from the tee box but absolutely reachable with a driver. Even the grounds crew was engaging, complimenting me on my (almost) birdie on the hole they were working on and chatting with me about the course and my experience in general.

Not only would I play Cochiti again, I’d really like to because I didn’t have my best game today, so I don’t think I gave it much of a test.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Sedona Golf Resort

Played On 04/25/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Beautiful track, even without the stunning backdrop

Most of the reviews I have read about Sedona Golf Resort talk about a feature that is 5 or 7 miles (I’m guessing) away. Other than this paragraph, I’m not going to do that (much). Yes, the red rock cliffs are an amazing backdrop for a golf course; and, yes, there are some stunning views to take in (I spent the most time gawking at #8, but I’m told #10 is the signature hole and I can see what that might be… I was too busy fighting my way out from under a tree for a bogey to properly take it in). However, I think all of this does a disservice to what is a really nice golf course.

If you took the exact same 18 holes and put them in the middle of nowhere, the course would still be a pleasure to play. There are plenty of elevation changes, water and almost every putt has some break on it. I was waiting for the people in front of me to move from the fairway so I could tee off on #13 and a guy working on his roof shouted over to me “are you saying a quick prayer, a lot of people do from there” (I should mention I was hitting from the back tee’s). Looking down the narrow shoot at what appeared to be a rather skinny landing area (turns out it opens up a bit down there) was intimidating.

That’s what I felt like I experienced most of the way around the Sedona course. Tricky (but completely fair) looks and shots with plenty of challenge. The second hole drops off what must be 100 feet from tee to green and it is one of several holes that require you to not only be able to hit all the clubs in your bag, but to really know them as well (i.e. is a choked up 9 the best 150yrd club with a 2 club elevation change, or would a full wedge land better). As an example, I was hitting my 3 wood an average of 215-220 so the 336 yrd downhill 18th looked like a good chance to fire at the front of the green. However when I thought it through my 7 iron was the high reward low risk club. 224 yrds later, from the center of the fairway, I was a simple gap wedge away from the green.

You also don’t need to look away from the course for scenery. It is sculpted around a variety of trees, brush and really nice homes that blend into the surroundings. It is in excellent condition and groomed nearly flawlessly everywhere. The only thing resembling a complaint I had was that the bunkers were very watered down and played quite “thick” as a result… easy enough to avoid by not hitting a bad shot into them though, right?

Staff was great and accommodating. Once again getting out early (second group) I found the pace of play beyond good and actually impressive. I finished my round in 2:49 (playing alone) and only waited on the group in front of me on two holes (on one of which they were held up by sprinklers). The twosome behind me was right there until the last hole as well, so it wasn’t just the front two groups moving along.

As I mentioned above, I’d play this course if it were in the middle of the Nevada desert (or some suburban neighborhood, or whatever). I really enjoyed playing Sedona… and yeah, the red rock cliffs were pretty cool as well.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

The Ledges Golf Club

Played On 04/24/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Challenging, scenic course

I’ll preface all of this by saying that I decided to play from the tips today, a first for me. At 7145, with a 74.2 rating (133 slope) from there, this was, on paper the most difficult round I have played. It turns out that when you go 220-240 off the tee (with a 3 wood) a 7145 yrd course can be a bit long. The reality is that I played many of the par 4’s “as par 5’s” because the greens were just a bit out of range for me, even when I put a couple of good strokes together.

That said, I really enjoyed The Ledges. The course was in fantastic condition and the only thing that really qualified as regrettable was that the toughest hole – a 600 yrd(!) par 5 –was under construction and was playing as a 150 yrd par 3. In talking to the staff, they said this was because the hole was playing too tough “I’d see guys coming in with par, bogey, double bogey, bogey, par, *ten* … over and over again and we knew we had to simplify the hole for playability.” Seems legit.

Almost every review I read about the course said the back nine was breathtaking (check, and double check). What I found interesting was the number of reviews that found the front pedestrian (some even said boring). This did not reconcile with my experience at all. While the front is certainly a different experience, it still plays to some great golf. A bit more open and “links’y” the front still demands some well-placed balls off the tee. With mounds and waste areas surrounding the fairways I think there is plenty of cost for errant shots. I’ll admit that some of this impression may have been derived from playing all the way back for the first time, but that only goes so far. To me this entire course is worth playing.

I liked that the course plays around within the edges of the red rock canyons without getting gimmicky. There is one hole that is absolutely “target golf” I hit 7i (175yds) then GW (114yds) to get on the deck of the downhill hole. However, any angst that might be generated from that is – in my opinion - quickly overcome by the beauty of the hole itself. Everything else on the course plays as good solid golf.

Pace of play was snappy to say the least on a Monday morning. I finished my round in 2:51 (I was in a cart today), and was played through by a guy hitting two balls (but taking zero pictures). I was second out, behind a single that started about 20 minutes before me, so I wouldn’t expect this pace regularly, but it’s good to know quick rounds are out there if you arrive at the right time.

The staff was simply exceptional. Friendly, engaging, and – to a one – legitimately interested in my trip, the courses I’ve been playing, etc. Even the grounds crew seemed to just be generally happy to be there. My wife had an issue with her cart on the first hole (I was walking ahead) and when I turned around Richard from the clubhouse was (literally) running down the fairway to help her out. I really enjoyed The Ledges and would go back again to play the course; however, more definitively, I WILL go back again because of the service.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Chimera Golf Club

Played On 04/23/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Friendly, playable course

The first thing I noticed about Chimera was the eye popping green, of their greens. The word “pristine” came quickly to mind; and, really, the entire course was fantastically groomed and maintained. This is no small accomplishment in Southern Nevada but using reclaimed water certainly helps.

I, personally, benefited from the desert environment as all of the waste areas between fairways were playable and you really need to work to lose a ball at Chimera. Not having my best game going (being a little stiff and a lot tired played into this as much as anything I think) this saved me from a “blow up” hole more than once.

The course, however, is not without its challenges. There are carries over water, including an approach to the 18th green with water up to a green that is protected by a hill in the back steep enough to require a set of stairs. Playing from the black (Serpent) tees the course plays 6530 and some of the fairways are a little driver averse (narrow) if you are a little unwieldy with the club. However, I played the whole way with a 3 wood (averaging around 220) and other than a few mishits had no problem finding the fairways and leaving myself decent approaches.

I used a golfboard for the first time (I normally walk, but I figured I was in “Vegas” so why not try something a little different and theoretically fun). After taking a little time to get used to them, I found them fun and can see how they could really speed up play; allowing people to move with the independence of walking while at the speed of having a cart. They are certainly a more active part of the round than a cart typically is, so if you use one be prepared for part of your experience being the actual driving of your “cart.”

One of the busier courses I’ve played, I thought the staff did a good and efficient job of managing the players while still being friendly and helpful. The starter in particular was an enjoyable fellow.

I enjoyed my morning at Chimera and at 3.5 hours, the rounds pace was good and didn’t compromise the rest of my days plans.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 01/16/2020

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