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First Review
04/21/2017
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Old Works

Played On 06/05/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great track, interesting features...

The signature element of Old Works is the black slag bunkers, and you can’t miss them when you are on the course. In fact to me, at first, they kept appearing to be water rather than traps. Fortunately, they don’t play like water if you find yourself in one (as I did on two occasions). While they don’t play exactly the same as a standard sand bunker, I felt they played true and had no problem with them. My best shot of the day was arguably a 7 iron from 174 out of a fairway slag waste area where I had absolutely no problem picking the ball clean off the glistening black surface.

Beyond the traps, there is some good golf to be played at Old Works. I think the course probably plays a bit tougher later in the year when some of the grass gets a bit thicker in the rough areas (which benefitted me on a day I wasn’t as precise as I’d like to have been off the tee). However, the Nicolaus course winding through an EPA super-fund site still presents plenty of challenge and there are tee boxes available for every ability. As you play the upper portions of the course, don’t miss the ruins of the “Old Works” themselves; it’s pretty cool climbing from the 5th green to the 6th tee box through the brick foundations of what was once a bustling industrial complex.

This track has a links feel to it, without many trees or a lot of water (although the bunkers lulled me to sleep and when I first looked at the one pond on the course, I thought it was a fairway waste area). There is a creek running by the clubhouse which you will cross a couple of times (more depending on which tees you play), but it really does not come into play very much. There is a bit of elevation change and some tricky angles and hazards. While Old Works has some holes that can be scored upon, it also has a few that will take a stroke (or more) away from you for an errant shot.

The view from the tips on #1 is worth taking in, even if you don’t play back from back there. It is opposite the creek from the other tees and we didn’t even see it until we were heading to the parking lot after our round. You fire over the creek (with a decent carry) into a relatively small visible landing area. It left me wishing, at least for that hole, I had played all the way back.

The staff at Old Works was nothing short of wonderful; friendly, helpful, and eager to chat about the course for which they clearly have affection. It is also well maintained by a grounds crew that, despite me being first off in the morning, managed to be largely invisible as we made our way around the grounds. Pace of play was brisk when I started off and as far as I can tell stayed that way as the morning went on.

I would certainly play Old Works again and recommend it based on more than just the novelty of the black bunkers. Without them this course would be more than worth your time (with them, it’s even better).

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Played the Eagle and Stag

The Powder Horn consists of three 9 hole tracks (Eagle, Stag, and Mountain); I played the Stag and Eagle holes during my round. The Stag was my favorite of the two 9’s (and I thought the slightly tougher, even though the Eagle holes play about 200 yards longer) but both were great. Much of the course features water, however, unlike many places with a good deal of water, the creek here was really running strong during my round and provided a “background track” of sorts, especially on the first few holes of the Stag 9. I really enjoyed this and it added significantly to my experience (not spending any time in that water also did, of course).

From the blues, where I played, the course stretched to just over 6700 yards and at 71.8/132 provided plenty of challenge for me. The course takes advantage of the plentiful water, angles, narrow landing areas, and well placed bunkers to protect itself and force you to use a full regiment of clubs; there are very few “driver/wedge” holes to be had here. I also liked the variety in both the 5’s (ranging from a reachable – for a slightly bigger hitter than me – 485 to a hearty “all you can eat” 603) and the 3’s (140/205). Again, The Powder Horn means to test your full game.

I want to say the greens are pretty straight forward and trend toward easy to play; however, my unusually high number of putts on the round (despite having a chip in from off the green) suggest they may be a little tougher than I give them credit for initially. In either case they were well maintained and rolled true, arguably a bigger factor in scoring well then how much break might they contain.

On the topic of maintenance, the course was in great shape. There is quite a variety of surroundings for the fairways (some very wooded, others more linksish in their Spartan foliage). However, all of them were well tended and there were no playing surfaces that were (improperly) difficult to play from in my experience. There is a bit of construction taking place on the Eagle 9 (around the par 3 third), but it really didn’t effect play in any negative way.

It’s a little difficult to pick a favorite hole, although I really liked the opening hole on Stag, partially because of the river “background music” but also for the golf itself. It’s a shorter par 4 (just 310 from the blues) and I felt comfortable trying to bring a draw in toward the green with my 6 iron off the tee instead of playing it straight and having two areas of potential water in play. It worked well and I was left with just 70 yards to go (and a birdie to start my day). Further, the bunker that protects the right hand side of the green was no longer in play. I enjoyed having the option to try to make a shot on the first, rather than just playing another standard “grip it and rip it” starter hole.

Number 8 on the Eagle course was also enjoyable to me for completely different reasons. With water running down the entire right side of the fairway and ponds almost surrounding the green; even though this hole is fairly straight forward and a touch short (370), you feel challenged to be precise the entire way. I was a little conservative off the tee (7i 183 yards) with the intention of setting up a second shot with the same club on my approach (178). A strategy that worked well and led to an easy two putt par (6 inches from a bird) on the hole. I liked the idea of a constant threat that can be mitigated by a well thought out approach. Some holes are meant to be managed rather than attacked head on, and doing so can lead to a good score; this is such a hole.

The staff at The Powder Horn, from the clubhouse to the starter, was very friendly and helpful and seemed quite focused on making sure our experience was a great one (mission accomplished). We didn’t run into the grounds crew much along the way, but in our few encounters they were mindful of us and pleasant as well.

Pace of play seemed fine behind us also. We went off first, played in about 3:30, and never really lost the groups playing behind us. Overall my experience at The Powder Horn was very good and I’d recommend the course to anyone. I didn’t play the Mountain course (they had a tournament going off the morning or I might have tried to get that in as well), so I can’t speak to much to it; however, if it plays like the other two I’d suggest trying to get in all 27 when you do.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Fossil Trace Golf Club

Played On 06/03/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Bring your whole bag, this course lets you use 'em all...

I played the 6577 “T-Rex” tees at Fossil Trace (because, really, how do you not play the “T-Rex” tees???) and I found the track pretty true to its 71.4/136 rating. There is a nice variety of holes here which really encourages you to use all of the clubs/shots in your bag. For example, no two par 3’s are alike (going 151, 95, 186, 205, and 160 respectively so you won’t be just firing 7 or 8 irons into them all day like some courses. The par 5’s also range from 536 to 626(!), although most are right around the 540 range.

The big draw to Fossil Trace (as the name implies) is the archeological dig remnants on the signature 12th hole, a fairly easily accessible 545 yard par 5 if you place your second shot in the right spot, or a frustratingly troublesome hole if you don’t (fortunately, my second was just about perfect and I had a pitching wedge into the well protected green for a two putt par… after missing a 8 footer for birdie). Both 12 and 15 have unusual rock obstacles I’ve heard complaints about; however, I liked the challenges they present and the fore-thought they require on your approach shots (this, of course, from someone who managed to avoid both of them). It’s certainly worth taking a few minutes and checking out the trace fossils after holing out on 12.

Friendly advice, don’t get complacent on 13 (or caught up thinking about the hole you just completed); you’ll want to put your tee shot on the left hand side of the fairway. If you don’t the hole gets quite a bit harder, my failure in this area led to my first bogey on the back nine (complete with a penalty for a lost ball on my blind approach shot over trees).

While the back nine features interesting geographic features, the front has its own brand of challenges. One and two feature downhill holes toward interesting green locations. Two especially requires a good approach as the green sits alone in the bottom of a “pit” with tall rough all around. I actually fired my tee shot to the right of the cart path (i.e. very right) and this provided me a great angle to attack the pin from. Not the way it’s drawn up for sure, but it led to an easy two putt par.

There are some deep and unusually shaped bunkers throughout the course as well that provide some interesting playing options (not all great) out of them. Some will force you to play sideways from a fairway bunker, which might be a little too punitive in my mind, but the knowledge of this should certainly keep you honest on your drives.

Overall I really liked the layout of the course. There is ample water, elevation change, use of angles for defense of greens, and the bunkers are such that sand saves will most definitely be earned if achieved. It’s a course that will test your full game as many of the greens are also challenging in and of themselves. Further, it was in great condition with immaculate fairways, well-groomed greens and bunkers that played as well as they looked.

I played a little early (I was first out) to really speak to the pace of play; however, the few groups I saw finish after me were in well under 4 hours so at least an early round should be nice and quick. The staff was great and everyone I met went out of their way to ensure I had a great round. The grounds crew also was mindful and considerate of players on the course while doing a great job of keeping everything in good shape. Also, on a non-golf note, the restaurant makes a completely fantastic (and affordable) lunch; I eschewed my usual Benedict for their hash and would do it again and again.

My entire experience at Fossil Trace was great and I will absolutely be going back to play again…

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

The Prairie Club - Dunes Course

Played On 06/02/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Links(ish) golf at it's Midwest best. Rustic, simple, and fantastic.

The Prairie Club is a special place (for a variety of reasons). One of the first things I noticed as I made my way through the first few holes is that there are no rakes on the course… everything is a “waste” bunker. As far as I know none of the bunkers are man-made, they are natural blowouts that are lovingly maintained by a combination of grounds crew and Mother Nature. I was pleasantly surprised, given this, by how few areas in the bunkers were left difficult to play due to footprints, divots, etc. This was good, because they are tricky enough on their own.

The Prairie Club has an interesting (and fantastic for the casual golfer) public private mix. Their two courses alternate day by day between being public or private for the members. This allows both members and the general public to enjoy both courses in a two day span; while maintaining the private feel for members when they play. It’s a great setup and given that both courses are in Golf Digests “Best Courses You Can Play” list (again) everybody wins in this configuration. Also unique (that I was tragically unable to take advantage of) is the no-charge-for-rerounds policy. Once you tee off at the Prairie Club, the course is yours (although you do have to share) for the day, if you can get in 36 (or 54???) holes in a day, it’s the same “all you can eat” price.

Regrettably I was only in Nebraska for one day so I was unable to play the Pines course (private on the day I visited). However, that – and missing the bagpipe player – were the only things I regretted about my visit, and if those are your two biggest problems, you probably had a whale of a visit (which I did).

The Prairie Club, in many ways feels like pure links golf; with wide open fairways, sand blow outs, and tall grassy fields ensconcing the very well maintained fast rolling fairways. The greens were also brisk as far as pace; however, in many cases I found them unconventionally tough to reach for a links style course (i.e. I had to go in “by air” far more than I expected). This actually plays to my game better than the bump and run method so I didn’t mind, but it’s worth noting.

One of the things I really liked about this track is there are several holes with “pick your poison” levels of risk/reward for your drive. Multiple points of entry to these fairways, depending on how far you elect to hit the ball, offer different levels of risk (usually involving fairway bunker play, but also at times compromising your view of the target of creating greater elevation change). Other holes, of course – notably many of the par 3’s – simply provide protection in the form of waste area to carry and plentiful traps without forcing a decision about how to assault the green.

You cannot help but appreciate the simplicity of the layout either. Tee boxes are nothing more than a wooden stake in the ground near a more closely cut and (generally) flat area of land. It harkens to “old school” golf where you sink your put and drop your ball within a clubs length of the cup to tee off for the next hole. This was actually my single favorite thing about this course, and that’s saying quite a bit because there is a lot to love here. It’s rustic, it’s western, and it’s delightful.

I mentioned above the roll on the fairways, it is significant. I actually talked to the guy in the pro shop after my round and asked if it was possible some of the distances might have changed since the cards were printed (they hadn’t) because I couldn’t believe I was reaching the places I was off the tee’s. But, simply put… run matters, and you’ll get it at the Prairie Club.

Pace of play was terrific and the staff both in the pro shop and on the course were outstanding. Overall my experience at the Prairie Club was more than I imagined it would be (and I have a very vivid imagination which was coupled with some very high pre-conceived expectations for this track).

Valentine is a long way from anywhere “big,” so expect some effort to get there, and expect to feel completely rewarded for your decision to make that effort. I can’t recommend strongly enough that you should plan to be there for at least two days and play both courses. If you are on a golf trip with buddies, you can’t miss the Horse course either.

Based on all that I missed (and everything I experienced), I am absolutely planning a return trip to the Prairie Club.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Prairie Green Golf Course

Played On 06/01/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Nice course, let the distance be your guide when selecting tee boxes

I’ll start this review by saying this was the first round I have played from the “regular” tee’s in a long time. I played there because I wanted to work on my irons and I didn’t hit anything bigger than a 6 iron all day. From the regular tees the course is only 6087 yards (although it does stretch out nicely to 7179 from the back, so it is only a short course if you elect to play it that way).

Having said that, I found the course remarkably attackable for its 70.4/124 rating. As you’d expect, given the comparatively short track compared to what I’ve been playing, I put up my best score (77) in a while. However, relative to the slope and rating I expected to struggle a bit more to get into the 70’s. Part of my success I believe was due to only hitting mid to short range irons. I got into a very nice groove and, for example, put together consecutive 8 irons on holes 7 and 9 of 180, 178 and 179 yards (hole 8 was a par three of only 137 so I didn’t hit an 8 there). When you are hitting straight 8 irons averaging 179, most of the holes are not only reachable but pretty scoreable from the front tees.

Needless to say, it was a fun round. I found only one hazard on the day (water on the 5th hole which led to my only double of the day), and that’s a great way to keep a good round going. This should not imply there are not hazards to find, however. While the course is not overly bunkered, there is a good amount of water to navigate, especially if you are a bit wayward off the tee.

Again, one of the nice things about this course is that it provides as much challenge as you are eager to receive. Most of its defense is in distance (there are not many dog legs or difficult angles to navigate), so selecting the right set of tees to match the experience you want is important. For example, I found the par 3’s very well-conceived in general and it was on these holes that I had my only real regrets about playing up. They were just a little too easy from there averaging only about 137 and only one of them required me to use something bigger than a wedge (and that was a 9 iron); I played them at even par.

Other than recently sanded greens on the front nine, I found the course to be in good shape; and even the sanded putting surfaces rolled true (albeit slow, of course). Given the heavy winters the northern states received this year (and subsequent late opening dates) it is especially commendable that the course was as playable as it was.

In addition to an enjoyable round of golf, Prairie Green’s staff added to the enjoyment of my day. Everyone I met there was friendly and attentive doing everything they could to ensure a good day on the course. The maintenance crew was scarce and courteous when I did run into them (this is not as often the case as one would like when you go off first) and the pace of play behind me seemed good as I watched group after group come in on time after me from the clubhouse.

I would certainly play Prairie Green again if I found myself with the opportunity.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

Bois de Sioux Golf Course

Played On 05/31/2017
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

More than a novelty, this is a good golf course

Starting with the obvious, there aren’t many (any?) places where you can play 9 holes of golf in two different states during the same round. This unique feature of Bois de Sioux was certainly what originally caught my eye. “The turn” from 9 to 10 involves crossing a bridge over the Red river (fun fact, the Red River is one of few in the US that flow North instead of South) from North Dakota into Minnesota for the back nine.

The Minnesota side is older and it shows in the more mature trees that provide a touch more defense of their holes than their newer counterparts on the front. I shot the same +4 on both sides, but the path to those scores was very different. I was able to post solid par’s and bogeys on all of the front nine holes; while the back was considerably more up and down, including a couple birdies mixed in with more bogeys and even a double. The back nine really put a premium on tee shot placement; very attackable if you positioned yourself well, but becoming quite difficult to score if you don’t. The front, by contrast, was pretty straightforward and simply required me to keep moving my ball forward on the short grass to put up consistent numbers.

The course uses mostly angles and trees for defense (although there is some water mixed in as well, especially on the back); and it does a good job of keeping you honest with these design elements. There are a few corners you can cut popping over the corner; doing so on #5 for example saved me a good 20-30 yards and made my approach on the 429 yard hole a very manageable 190 yards (I was tee’ing off with a 6 iron all day to protect a strained oblique, so every yard counted). Others you might think you can cut can bite you, however… I discovered this the hard way.

The greens were surprisingly fast and true for a public course, which took me a couple of holes to adjust to. The fairways also were well cared for and gave decent roll to my irons off the tee, a welcome change from some of the waterlogged courses I’ve been playing recently. Overall it was just a nice course that tested your golf game without being too cute or over-complicated.

Pace of play was great as (despite the course being public) there are mostly members playing who know their way around the track. We played in about 3:15 and didn’t put much, if any, distance between us the groups playing behind us. Everyone on the course was quite friendly and welcoming as well. It’s also probably worth mentioning that, having played a wide variety of courses on this trip, including some rather exclusive private clubs; these greens may have had the fewest unrepaired ball marks we have seen over the last 41 days/rounds. Indicating a healthy respect for the game, this is always a welcome sight!

The pro-shop experience was great, I might add. The folks in there were genuinely interested in my trip and chatted us up for a bit about it. They also took the time to share some of the history of the course and how some of the design elements came into being. We also had a fellow who lives on the third hole pop out in his cart and introduce himself and chat with us for a bit about the trip and book. There was just a really nice “local” or “small town” feel that we really enjoyed in addition to the golf.

More than just a novelty, Bois de Sioux is a nice course and worth a visit as much for the golf as the inter-state river crossing.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Walked

Aptly named "The Classic" this is a great course.

The short version: this is, quite simply, a great course. It’s Golf Digests #58 public course, and has been on the list since ’03 with the only real question being; what were the folks at Golf Digest thinking prior to that? Further, the service level (at every level of employee we met, which ranged from an intern to the director of marketing and head pro) bordered on unbelievable. Very few places pull off the “we are truly glad you are here” vibe, without looking like they are trying; at Maddens the enthusiasm was palpable.

While I still like “country club” golf, with the scenic shots and tricky design quirks; I’ve really developed an appreciation for tournament layouts as well. There is something to straightforward golf that appeals to me at a basic level. What The Classic does that I think is somewhat unique is deftly combine the best of both worlds.

It certainly had the club feel, with beautiful holes that captivate the imagination in ways beyond the golf you are playing. Ponds, creeks and covered bridges are just a part of the tapestry that is this course. They even have a “player option” split green on #5 that has two holes. One is on a super-small green which is about 75 yards closer, while the other comes with a far larger landing area; both are protected in front by water. A fledgling tree in the center of the fourth fairway will only add to the intrigue when it develops over the years.

At the same time, Maddens sets up and plays like a tournament ready course and there is plenty of golf to be played here. I thought the blue tees I played were going to be a little short at 6438 for their rating/slope (71.9/136); however, they played to their full measure by using good angles and well placed - but not overly punitive - hazards to defend the holes. The starter said the holes play about 2 strokes tougher than the same distance somewhere else and I’d say he was about right.

I really liked the par 5 starting hole. You can’t see over the horizon, so you don’t really know what you are getting yourself into; however you can absolutely make up some ground on the downhill second shot. I was a bit short off the tee, but with roll had a 217 yard 7 iron approach that put me in position to save par (I failed to do so, but that’s not the point). And yet, while you can get “back in the game;” because of the way the green is protected at the bottom, you really can’t fire into it and make up more than one stroke. It’s just really good design, from my perspective.

This third hole is another interesting creation with a drivable distance (for big hitters) but a very well protected green complete with water in front as well as to the right and waste area behind. I fired at the center of the “fairway” bunker and just cleared it, leaving about 80 yards or so to the pin.

The course itself was in stellar condition with arguably the softest bunkers I’ve played out of in the 40 rounds I’ve played over the last 40 days. The starter told me the greens are fast and true; and, once I stopped trying to read too much into them and listened to his advice my scoring improved significantly. They are deceptively true, if that is a thing. The Classic really appeared to be in “mid-season form,” even though opening day wasn’t that long ago.

My wife and I started out in a cart together; however, because of the number of pictures she was taking for the book, I eventually grabbed my bag and walked the last several holes. I could have easily walked the entire course (and, in many ways wish I had). There is a calmness and serenity about this place and walking the course added to that.

As mentioned above the service level was more than commendable and we truly felt like guests rather than patrons. I went off first so I can’t speak too much to pace of play, but I know the foursome playing behind us wasn’t far behind (and I was playing as a single). I’m told Monday and Tuesday are the best days for getting in a quick round and the weekends can be a tougher get. This makes sense because in addition to having a strong local customer base Maddens is a destination spot that caters to the entire family; with plenty to keep non-golfers pleasantly entertained while rounds are being played. We stayed in a lovely little lake side cabin and were not excited about leaving.

More than a course I’d recommend, I’m already plotting my return!

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

University Ridge Golf Course

Played On 05/29/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

I was looking for more golf in my golf course, University Ridge delivered

Yesterday, upon reflection on of a recent round at Cog Hill #4, I was telling Melanie that I wish we had booked more TPC type courses on the trip. Tournament ready courses that set up for “good old fashioned golf” rather than necessarily being focused on attempting to accomplish breath taking effect on every hole. Enter University Ridge at the University of Wisconsin.

This course feels, from start to finish, like a tournament course; ready to challenge your golf game at least as much as your shot making. It makes sense because, as it turns out, there is a Champions Tour event there in about two weeks. In fact as we hit our approaches on 17 and 18 we were shooting into grandstand construction projects of somewhat staggering proportions (the guy I was playing with said they were expecting a couple hundred thousand people to attend). In other words, University Ridge was set up to play tournament golf at just about the highest level there is.

Most of the holes are straightforward with all of their challenges made clear. Number two has a few surprises in the second shot landing area if you don’t take a peak down the course before you shoot, but the hole clearly states on the tee box what you must carry to cross the creek that wanders across the fairway.

While there are few surprises here, there’s also not a lot of room for poor golf. Plan on giving up a stroke if you mishit a ball. Having said that though, what you don’t have to worry about - for the most part - is giving up multiple strokes to a middling shot. University Ridge plays very fair, and again, in my estimation is a very good test of your golf game.

Fear not though, there is still some shot making fun to be had out there, as exemplified by the three finishing holes. Big hitters will love the par 5 16th with multiple tee shot options (including, as my playing partner described it, the “pro option” which is straight over the trees with a mid-range iron into the green for an eagle try). Shot makers will take pleasure in firing into a pond-protected postage-stamp of a green from 192 (blues tees) on 17. Course managers will enjoy their options on 18, where following the fairway leads to a lengthy approach, but the safety of flat ground; coming up short attempting to cut the corner can leave you firing from thick rough in a series of grass bunkers.

You don’t have to be a monster off the tee to have a good round here. I shot an 89 from the blues using a 6 iron (averaging about 185-190) from the tee pretty much all day (largely due to the fact that my 5 iron broke yesterday and I was playing with a 2nd degree oblique strain which left my woods stranded in my bag). I was forced to lay up on #2 rather than clear the creek (but another 6 iron put me within 100 yards, so I didn’t feel compromised by this), but other than that I really didn’t feel that there were any holes I couldn’t play at least to a bogey. I could have played much better, but I had arguably the worst putting day of my entire trip and was generally average at best around the green.

The course goes from 5752 (whites) all the way out to 7259 (blacks), so there are tee boxes for just about every level of player. I played the 6718 blues (72.5/140). It also mixes a links feel on the front 9 with a parkland woods feel on the back, so bring both your grass and tree jokes, you’ll get to use them all.

On the topic of bunkers, University Ridge does one of the better jobs I have seen of keeping their bunkers very purposeful while simultaneously contributing significantly to the visual appeal of the course. Maintenance on the bunkers was almost flawless, as was the case with pretty much all of the course. I’m struggling to think of any component of the track that was want for attention. Additionally, I’ve played 39 courses in 39 states over the last 39 days, and this was the least “present” grounds crew I have experienced… pretty good for a course in such fantastic condition.

The pace of play was great; we played as a twosome, with a foursome playing behind us that was only about two holes back by the end (and actually caught us briefly on 12). We finished in three and a half hours. All of the groups that we saw coming in as we ate lunch after the round were one after the other, so the pace was clearly maintained throughout the morning.

With Cog Hill fresh on my mind, University Ridge was exactly what I was looking for, if you are looking for a test of your golf game that is largely gimmick free, it’s probably for you as well.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Spirit Hollow Golf Course

Played On 05/28/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great afternoon of golf

So, I’m going to start with something completely non-golf (because I’m afraid I’ll forget it). As you play down through the green on the first hole, don’t forget to look back and take in the old cabin on the hill on the right as you look back… it’s pretty cool (pic included in this review).

Spirit Hollow was a slightly different experience for me (especially on this trip). I almost always set my tee times for early in the morning (first out as often as possible), I really like getting first tracks when I can. However, do to scheduling I wound up going out as a single at 3:00pm. This put me behind several larger groups so the play was a bit slower than I’m used to; however, this gave me a chance to really take in the course as I went. Something my typical three hour rounds don’t always allow me to do.

Spirit is a nice course that can play quite long. The blacks I played were a rather pedestrian 6589 when compared to the gold tees in back at 7550(!). In my entire deck of 39 cards from this trip, there is not a single course that opens up this much between the back two tees. I like a good challenge, but that one was enough that I left it for next time.

The course features a decent amount of elevation change but as I recall mostly plays downhill with lots of cart paths taking you back up. This provides for plenty of great vista’s from the tee boxes. The most fun I had was on the par 5 18th hole where the two groups in front of me got backed up on the green and layup area, leaving the entire fairway landing area free for me. I took advantage of this and let a few balls fly after putting my first drive safely on the deck. You shoot over a creek that runs at an angle away from you, so it’s a “bite off as much as you think you can chew” tee shot. Having placed one safely on the fairway and having nothing to do while I waited… I got to test out “my appetite” (turns out my eyes were bigger than my stomach, and I just lost a few balls… but I had some good fun).

The golf, in general, was good. This track offers something for everyone including a fun risk/reward poke over some (pretty tall) trees on the dogleg left 14th hole. I took that rout successfully with a 3 wood and was rewarded with just a wedge into the green and my only birdie on the day (there were other scoring opportunities, but I strained my oblique on the first hole and had trouble with my swing most of the way).

With the exception of one hole that is undergoing a major renovation (obviously not a neglect issue), the course was in very good condition, which was impressive given the number people that had gone through the course before we did. The staff was friendly and engaging and seemed genuinely interested in our trip and helping in any way they could. Other than one group (which, thankfully, only played 9 holes) the pace of play and the other players were friendly and a pleasure to chat with as well.

I’d certainly play Spirit Hollow again if I were in the area.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

A true test of golf

There are some courses I play (or consider playing) where I’m just not sure if I can add any value writing about them. Cog Hill (#4, Dubsdread) is just such a course. While most courses on my trip many people, even in the golf community, haven’t heard of… pretty much everyone who might read this review also knows about Dubsdread. Nevertheless, I’m going to do it anyway (the writing that is, not as sure about the value adding part).

I’ve seen #4 on a few “toughest courses” lists and there also is the fact that it gets it’s moniker from the notion that this is a place that average golfers should fear to tread. However, as I began playing the course what I did not was notice an impossible track eager to gobble up half of the balls in my bag; by contrast, I realized that while Cog can be trying, it’s not really a day ruining kind of tough.

In fact, one of the things I really liked about Cog was that it didn’t seem to want to penalize you as a means of keeping your score from being too low. It just wanted to… how to say… vet you; and be sure you were deserving of the score you obtained. I found this very refreshing.

Pool players say 8-ball is a shooters game, while straight pool is a pool players game. In this sense I think a course like #4 is a golfers track rather than a shot makers. There is nothing symbolic or even akin to target golf at Cog Hill. While I’ve spent my life loving courses that highlight my strong mid to short iron game; if you want to know how good, and complete, a golfer you really are, Dubsdread is a great place to find out.

My favorite hole was probably the par 5 11th, which happens to be the #2 handicap on the course (despite me having a far more difficult time with #18 which is the 16 handicap). I felt it had its hazards in great places to keep play honest while still being a hole that could be attacked. Three strong mid irons could get you close, if not on the green, while avoiding the well placed traps. In other words, avoiding the temptation to hit a longer club made the hole easier to play.

My whole day at Cog was an exercise in course management and restraint (it’s the first course in a long time that I really cared about the outcome from a score standpoint), and the 11th was no different. I took a shorter club (5 iron) off the tee with the idea of leaving myself short of the bunkers, and then took a mid-range iron (6) into a wide landing area short of the second set of hazards. This left me with a very reasonable 7 iron into the green (which I *may* have pulled into the rough on the left resulting in a bogey).

This was an example of how I thought the course sets up in general. It can be managed, by a bogey golfer, to play bogey golf. That is until #18… which, because of the way it is set up, is hard to simply manage your way around. By and large though, I think if you played Cog Hill 20 times, you would actually have a true handicap; which I don’t believe is the case for many other courses.

The course itself was in immaculate condition. From the precisely cut tee boxes, to the manicured fairways and perfectly prepped greens, there was not a blade of grass that didn’t seem ready to be golfed upon. I thought the design was exemplary as well. I, as have many before me, assumed the PGA players play the tips and was curious how I would do from back there. However, I was assured by staff that they play the gold tees and that there is nothing but distance to miss by not playing the back. From my perspective, if the golds are good enough for the pros, they’re good enough for me as well.

The staff at Cog Hill was great and (who knew?) they’ll wash your car while you play (being first out, we didn’t know about this until we were done, so missed out). Overall the Dubsdread experience was everything I wanted it to be and I not only recommend you play it if you have the chance, I think you owe it to yourself to play Gog, or another course like it, just to see where you golf game really stacks up.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging

Fox Hopyard Golf Club

Played On 05/26/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Scenic and challenging, but certainly playable

I’ve always been a fan of target golf, quite frankly, mostly because I’m pretty good with my medium and short irons and terrible with a driver in my hand. While I wouldn’t classify Fox Hopyard as a target golf course, it did set up well for me. At around 6500 from the blue tees, it’s really a 200-215 yard shooters (read: me) paradise. I’m just not sure how many holes you’d even want to hit anything beyond 250. The fairways tend to narrow and get more protected beyond that.

There is a good score waiting for you, if you play this course patiently and don’t try to do too much. Having said that, there is enough in the way of hazards – between water, trees, and the occasional bunker - to make for a long afternoon if you are overly aggressive and aren’t striking the ball well.

This course is lightly bunkered, but uses angles, elevation changes, and its densely wooded surroundings well for protection. What bunkers there are, it should be noted, are well placed and can certainly be found if your shot is even a little offline. There is also a decent number of water features scattered around the course in form of ponds, creeks and marshes.

Fox Hopyard is nothing if not scenic. I found the numerous rock walls particularly pleasing. Using these, along with a variety of short carries over marshes and other water that really isn’t overly in play, the course does a nice job of providing an attractive aesthetic without being overly threatening.

There’s a good amount of variety in the design of the holes. Even holes which play the same like the back to back par four 6th and 7th – each calling for a 200-215’ish drive to a dog leg left, leaving another 180 or so into a tucked away green – feel completely different because of their design elements.

Be sure to bring your thinking cap, or abacus, there will be some calculating to do with regard to club selection because of the significant elevation changes on some of the holes. Number 4, for example drops nearly 90 feet over its 180 or so yards while the par five 5th loses over 100 feet of elevation before rising back up about 15 feet right in front of the green.

Most of the holes on this track also enjoy a certain amount of privacy. There are very few adjacent fairways so we often felt alone on the course (never a bad thing). This was especially true on the front nine, and really added to our experience. We played behind a twosome who we didn’t see after the third hole and pace of play was good while we were on the course and appeared to stay that way as we watched groups come in behind us and make the turn after our round.

The staff at Fox Hopyard was great both in the pro shop and around the course, and the grounds crew was particularly considerate and polite. Overall, we really enjoyed the round and would certainly return if the opportunity came up.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Warren Golf Course At Notre Dame

Played On 05/26/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Nice course, just enough challenge (that increases as our skill level does)

Something to get out of the way quickly. The course at Warren is not currently “complete.” As it set up for me the course played to a 70 (usually a 71) because the par 4 18th was actually a par 3 due to prolonged flooding. The flood damage was extensive enough to require re-sodding of the bulk of the fairway; this process is currently underway. To be clear, this did not ruin a very nice round on a lovely course.

Beyond that I really enjoyed my morning at Warren. The front nine start things off in a fairly straight forward manner; although the fairway bunkering and narrow landing area for any shot under 200 yards on the first hole give you something to think about right out of the gate.

I found the fairways pretty open and hittable off the tee’s (which is not the exact same thing I saying I personally hit them all), there is also not a lot of danger off the tee for slightly wayward shots (this I did have a bit more experience with). Warren gets tougher as you approach the greens though with fairly small and well protected targets on almost every hole.

While it takes a good shot to get on; however, the course will not over penalize you for being close. The bunkers and greenside rough are very playable and I was able to get up and down from around the green multiple times. The biggest investment is in lateral protection as most greens have either a bunker of other form of natural hazard on both sides of the green, straight shots that are a little short tend to have a decent chance of rolling onto the green safely. It’s also worth noting that despite the fairly generous landing areas off the tee, because the greens are small and well protected, if you want to score well you will need to position your drive in such a way to give yourself a good angle into the green.

All in all, the course design is quite solid; built to allow mid to high handicappers to enjoy their round while still providing a solid challenge for anyone wanting to make a run at par. All in all Warren shouldn’t ruin anyone’s day; but it won’t make your week unless you shoot well the whole way, tee to green.

As I mentioned above, the front nine is pretty straight forward. The back nine has a little more stuff to it with a few meaningful encounters with water carries (especially when 18 gets back to full strength) and just a little more to think about as you go. Number 16 was probably my favorite as, while a bit short at 345 from the back, there was plenty to make your way through on the hole. A creek runs diagonally across the fairway (getting longer the further right you go), while the landing area on the left is littered with bunkers. There is also a small (but very findable, just ask me) pot bunker right in front of the green making this hole one of the few that puts up much resistance to a straight forward approach.

Pace of play was great for me, although I was just the second to go. The group in front of me was three strong and they managed to keep a good pace to the point that, playing as a single, I didn’t have to wait for them on any holes (I did, of course, have the disadvantage of having to capture pictures for the book along the way). The groups behind us came in promptly as well, so it appears that pace of play was fine through the first several groups at any rate.

The staff at Warren was fantastic, I can’t say enough about the starter. He walked me through almost every noteworthy turn on the course before I began and also quizzed me on my round after, wanting to make sure my experience was everything I expected.

I’d be delighted to get back to South Bend and play this course again, and I’d recommend the same for anyone else who gets the chance.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Forest Dunes Golf Club

Played On 05/25/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Walked

Great course, better experience

Forest Dunes is Golf Digests number 25 public course (and has been ranked in the top 100 since 2007). The course certainly deserves the ranking and the round I had there was great (Note I said “the round,” not “my play”… that’s an important distinction); however, the golf is not what I will remember the most. The best part, hands down, of my visit to Roscommon was the service and attention we received from the staff. This is difference-making, plan-you-trip-around-it level service.

One quick example: we are on a long (golf) road trip (50 rounds in 50 states in 50 days) and had commented (online) about the logistical issues related to planning “laundry days” during the trip. Noticing this and without being asked, the staff at Forest Dunes made arrangements for us to be able to do laundry while staying on property. It’s simple, but it’s little “attention to detail” things like this that bring you back to a destination spot. This was just one of several times when the observant and pro-active staff exceeded not just our expectations; but any imaginary notions of service we might have entertained. Everyone we met at Forest Dunes was enthusiastically engaging.

And then there was the golf. I’d say I played 18 holes of great golf, but that would imply two things that are incorrect 1) that I had played well and 2) that I had played 18 holes. Forest Dunes has a “bye” (or bonus) 19th hole; a short par 3 over water playing about 97 yards on average to a green with a bunker in the dead center of it. It’s just another example of the course going the extra mile (or in this case the extra 20th of one).

The course layout is terrific with essentially two different looks. The front nine is forested and light on waste areas and bunkers while the back is links’ish with a much more open look and vast amounts of waste. Holes 12 and 14 on the back play and look a little more like the front but for the most part the looks are consistent, front and back.

As I was a bit errant with my tee shots today, I was pleased to find that many of the waste areas are easily played out of. I also benefitted from playing in the spring when the grasses hadn’t fully come in yet; there was at least one ball I was able to play that my partner said would have been unplayable later in the year. There is only water on 5 holes (6 if you count #19) but it is very much in play on each of the holes that has it.

The course does not have a great deal of elevation change, however they use a variety of design elements to keep the track both challenging and interesting. One of the things I particularly liked was the lack of penalty for a “pretty good” shot (many courses tend to tilt their fairways, for example, so that only very good shots leave a player on even footing with the ball, I tend to view this as “too much”). Forest Dunes will certainly bite you for making a bad shot, but the less than perfect nature of a “decent shot” is not unnecessarily compounded.

There are also a couple holes which are set up to force the player to make a decision on how to attack the green. I’ve played lots of courses with split greens of one fashion or another, but few of them are as demanding when it comes to thinking through your approach. The aptly named “Gamble” 6th hole is a great example of this. With a shorter more direct route - which requires a 200 yard carry over a fairway wide bunker - to the green on the right and a longer, but much safer off the tee, path to the left; the player can choose their level of risk/reward tolerance.

Other features are the drivable par 4 17th (I hit a 189 yard 6 iron from the “II” tees to about 75 yards) and another spilt fairway choice (shorter and narrower vs. longer and wider) on a #10 hole bearing the moniker “Decision.” The course is also easily walked which, for me, really enhances the round.

Forest Dunes is a great course and an even better experience. My wife and I have already discussed returning for a two (or three) day stay in order to play the new Loop course (a completely reversible course that switches direction every other day) and get in another round at the Dunes. We will almost certainly be back and can’t recommend making the trip out to play this track strongly enough.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Black Diamond Golf Course

Played On 05/24/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great course and possible location for a super golf getaway weekend

The old adage “never judge a book by its cover” might have been written for Black Diamond. Nestled somewhat remotely in the rolling hills of Ohio the drive-up first impression (what do they call it now “curb-appeal”) of the course certainly does not jump out at you. What’s beyond the double-wide pro-shop/snack bar and “gently used” cart-paths; however, is considerably more “diamond” than “rough.”

Black diamond starts you out with a very “attackable” par 5 (although it does require a carry over water for your first shot of the day), including a relatively large fairway landing area and fairly accessible green. But, things get a bit chippier after that; narrow landing spaces (both for drives fairway shots), tight angles, and undulating putting surfaces place a premium on accuracy, tee to green. Club selection, as well as attention to where the “meat” of the landing areas is, can make or break your scoring chances on many holes.

It’s easy to get caught up in the scenery of this course as well. Most holes feature some amount of elevation change along with the already mentioned narrow landing spaces. The only real exception I recall to that was the - unique in its own way - par six (6!) 7th hole which can play as long as 720 (it was about 620 from the blues when I played it). Deer and wild turkeys were a part of our “gallery” as we made our way through the back nine and there is plenty of water and numerous trees adding equal value to the visual appeal and challenge of the course.

The staff and grounds crew were outstanding; enthusiastic about having us there and courteous to us throughout the course. Frequently, the grounds crew anticipated our arrival on a hole or green and were out of sight before we arrived, a level of attentiveness often not found even on some of the more exclusive/private clubs we have played.

There is also a house that can be rented in the heart of the course (near the signature barn on the 11th green). It can accommodate up to 14 people and offers a rather unique “stay and play” option as it is truly in the middle of the course (i.e. not on an outer border like most course side housing). Given the proximity to other tourist attractions (e.g. Amish country), I can’t imagine why this wouldn’t be a great get-away travel destination. We would absolutely return to play again (and likely stay on property next time).

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Olde Stonewall Golf Club

Played On 05/23/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Sometimes, it's okay to judge a book by its cover...

Sometimes, a course just knows how to appeal to you at a very simple level. The back tees at Olde Stonewall are called the “Epic” tees; they are also rated a 74.3 and carry a 149 slope; so, as much primal appeal as they may have had, I stayed away. Which didn’t mean I didn’t get to play from “cool” tees, it was the medieval’s for me (still a knee-knocking 72.4/146). Beyond the names of the tees, there’s the castle (yes a castle!) clubhouse and a staggering amount of rock work throughout the course. Visually, Olde Stonewall hits all the marks.

You can play some golf here as well, and the 140+ slope on all of the first three sets of tees is no joke. Even the front-most tees play to a 127 and 132 respectively; so there is challenge no matter what tees you choose to play. Elevation change, water, well planned landing areas, and forest lined fairways are hallmarks of most holes on this robust track which can play from 5241 all the way out to 7103. Once holding the #50 spot on golf Digests “top 100 courses you can play” list and a “top ten best new courses” winner in 1999 “Epic” seems appropriate.

There are multiple high vista holes throughout the course with fantastic views of the surrounding areas and really elevated tee boxes; for example, the Epic tee box on the 474 yard par four 16th (which I played because once you stand there, there’s no way you are walking back down to the Medieval tees) turned my 220-230 yard 3 wood into a 281 yard “driver.” However, for my money, the best golf hole is the far more sedate number four. This 414 treat plays to water on the right and has a small pine perfectly placed at the edge of the opposite side of the fairway providing just enough to think about on a challenging yet scoreable hole.

In general I found the holes to be a good golf test while still being playable. There weren’t many “gimmick” holes (unless you consider very elevated tee boxes a gimmick); and while most of the golf was straightforward, there were some “target golf” holes for fans of more extensive “game management” as well. The course uses its bunkers, and to a lesser degree water hazards, judiciously to defend landing areas and greens without being overly excessive or punitive. The bent grass greens are also in great shape and play true (which means really paying attention to not just the break of the green but also the flow of the grain or your putting pace could be a real issue).

Olde Stonewall was in fantastic condition and since I was first out, pace of play wasn’t an issue either. When I finished and observed the other groups going out and making the turn, there were no signs that anything had changed in that area after I got on the course. Both the club pro and the starter were engaging and helpful with course information (including an interesting history on how the course came into being), and the grounds crew was attentive and courteous as well.

Oh, one last thing... this is *NOT* a walking course. Tons of elevation change and some pretty long commutes from green to the next tee box. Even if you are up for the hike, there is no way you can walk it without effecting pace of play unless you are the last person on the course for the day.

I really enjoyed my experience at Olde Stonewall and look forward to visiting again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging

Ravenwood Golf Course

Played On 05/22/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

A little bit of everything good

Sometimes, less is more. I can’t necessarily point to any one hole or even course characteristic of Ravenwood that makes me so fond of the course; it’s more the sustained quality of the holes, one after the other.

It’s still pretty early in the season, but the course was in great shape (despite quite a bit of recent rain, which dampened the roll on the fairways… but not my enthusiasm for this track). The greens were rolling well and the fairways and tee boxes were manicured and in stellar shape.

While the course is fairly open and playable, the rough can be pretty thick and grabby so accuracy is still at a premium here. Other than 12 and 18 there really isn’t a ton of bunkering, but what is out there is well placed in potential landing areas. My score for the twelfth hole reflected the mistake of playing a little too much of a draw on my second shot as I found not one, but two, of the bunkers that are strung out along the left hand side of the fairway. Similarly, I plugged my ball into the top of a bunker on 17 when the water on the right hand side of the green caused me to club up a little and play away from it; just good course craftsmanship.

My favorite hole was probably the par four third, which doglegs around a long pond, defying you to bite off more of the corner than you can chew. Eighteen is a really nice finishing hole as well, certain to make you want to come back and play again.

The staff was warm and engaging as we chatted with the starter for about 15 minutes as we came off of 18. Pace of play was good both for me and for the people I saw coming through the turn as I was wrapping up my round. We’ll play Ravenwood again if we are in the region.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Vermont National Country Club

Played On 05/21/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
Perfect weather
Walked

Good design makes the most of the property

Over the course of our trip we developed a few habits. One of which was me asking Melanie, somewhere around the 7th or 8th hole, what she thought of the course. There were lots of standard replies along the way; however, her response for Vermont National was a single word… “sexy.”

It wasn’t difficult to see how she came to this conclusion. It’s fair to say Vermont National has sleek lines and the course is (always, as I’m told) in tremendous shape tee to green. The course has just the right amount of bend to it, such that you can’t just blast away with a driver and grab for a wedge, and the bunkers are strategically placed just where you’d be inclined to hit the ball to properly manage the course.

Overall I found this track pleasantly challenging, especially given its relatively short length (6477 from the gold tees), while being delightfully scenic. That does not mean it has large sweeping vista’s or cool elevated tee boxes (in fact, it’s pretty flat). The attractiveness of this course lies in the details, everything is just where it needs to be, and is very well maintained. There is also a nice mix of fairly straightforward holes and those with a little more of a “target golf” feel. Just enough of each to allow you to use most of the clubs in your bag.

The first hole gives you a pretty good idea of what is in store for you as you make your way around Vermont National. A dogleg left with just a touch of elevation change in the middle it is certainly reachable with two mid irons (I hit a 176 yard 7 iron off the tee and a 152 9 iron into the green, leading to a two putt par). With a relatively short par 5 up next I tried to take the same approach; however, I found a bunker with my iron off the tee and had to struggle a bit to “save” a bogey.

The par 3’s may have (collectively) been my favorite part of this course. There are five of them ranging from 153 to 189 yards. With the exception of two that are essentially the same (177 and 178) though, they are evenly spaced out over that distance and require a variety of clubs to find the green. I used my 9, 8, 7 (twice) and 6 irons to find the putting surfaces and played all five holes to even par (I played the remaining 13 holes at 12 over… oops).

Everyone I met at the course from the clubhouse staff to the grounds crew was friendly and welcoming (not always the case at a private course when you are not a member). I had a lovely conversation with the starter before we tee’d off on the first hole (leaving me feeling like I had played the course before), which added to my experience as well.

Overall my visit to Vermont National was fantastic; it’s a great Nicklaus design that has been maintained very well. I was first out, so I can’t say I was slowed by anyone; and it appeared that the groups behind me were all coming in on time as well, so the pace of play seemed great to me. I’d certainly recommend playing here you get the chance.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Beautiful setting, 360 degree captivating views

We played Mount Washington early in the season (very early) and what was particularly impressive to me was the conditioning of the course. I had read in several reviews how well maintained this track was; however, playing there in the first couple weeks after the heaviest snowpack in ages finally melted away, my expectations were pretty low. Much to my surprise, the course really looked terrific. Yes there were some patches that were still under the spell of the winter, but even there you could see the meticulous care the course is given by its crew. I can’t imagine how stunning this course must be in full bloom.

The golf is good as well. Between the striking lodge and the omni-present forested mountain backdrop, there simply isn’t a bad view or vantage point on this course. Perhaps because of this, many of the holes play fairly straightforward without a lot of bend or hazards in play (although be careful on #9 there is water running through the fairway that you can’t really see from the tee boxes… I know because I was absolutely shocked when my – I thought – really nice tee shot created a splash in the middle of the fairway!). The first hole plays over a briskly running creek for your tee shot, and 18 comes back across the same creek (it runs in front of the green). Number 14 is a long par 3 over a bit of a canyon that can give you a little pause as well, but other than those holes nothing is overly daunting.

This should not be confused as me saying it plays easy, however. While certainly playable for all skill levels, Mount Washington is well constructed to provide challenge as well. There is not, for example, an overabundance of bunkers, but they are placed very well. Most of them are not the round’ish sand traps we are used to seeing float along the sides of fairways either; they tend to be fingers extending into the landing areas. Many a shot, that was in no way destined for the rough, or even miss-hit, could easily find its way into these fairway beaches.

Further, while the course isn’t overly long (6400 yards from the blues where I played), the par three’s will test your game. The shortest of them is 186 and the go as long as 204 (the afore mentioned 14th, playing over the ravine). The rest of the holes are on the shorter side, with the longest par 5 at 522 and only one par 4 as much as 400 yards. The rating of 70.3 and slope of 122 feel just about right as this course is challenging enough to make you feel like you played; but still rather scorable if you manage the par 3’s well.

The staff we met were more than delightful and – quite frankly – we had to pull ourselves away from a couple of conversations (there’s a great story about striking a submarine with a golf ball to be heard at this course) in order to keep out schedule and get to the next state on time. We felt very welcomed and really enjoyed this aspect of our visit as much as anywhere else we played.

Another aspect of the outing that could have been fun (but we ran out of time) would have been sitting on the back patio of the clubhouse, which is right off the 18th green, and watching other groups play into and through the hole. It seems like a fantastic way to cap off a morning round and I wish we had found the time to do so.

If you get the chance, I’d absolutely get up to New Hampshire and get a round in.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

The Links at Poland Spring Resort

Played On 05/19/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Walked

A good test of your game, despite being short and relatively easy

The first thing you notice (literally the first thing I noticed) about Poland Spring is the history. Built in the late 1800’s and one of America’s oldest courses; this track has hosted many of the legends of the game (and other games, there is a hole dedicated to Babe Ruth’s visits to the course) as well as celebrities and even Charles Lindbergh touched down in his plane here. There is enough history here that every hole has a sign by the tee box sharing a story of Poland Springs past.

And then you get to play some golf. This is an old, mature course; carved before people were finding ways to traverse canyons for effect. The golf is pretty straightforward, literally and figuratively. It was also one of the easiest (on paper) courses I played on the trip given that it was both relatively short and contained little in the way of defense along the fairways. The few holes around the clubhouse (and some of the other buildings on the property) were particularly benign due to being wide open as well. I played from the back and shot an 85 with a blowup-hole-snowman on the card.

Having said that, Poland Springs is at its best as you move away from the clubhouse and down toward the body of water at the bottom of the hill. These holes are carved from forest and offer both dramatic views as you line up your shots down the fairway, and enough challenge as they are narrow enough to keep you honest and forested enough to punish you for being too aggressive.

One of the thing I really liked about this course is that it seems like just about every hole has some elevation change to it; you are either moving downhill toward to lake, or uphill away from it. As such you can have two holes, side by side that are the exact same distance but play completely differently. The grade changes depending on where you are on the hill as well, so club selection is important and just looking at the distance is not going to be enough to play well. Poland demands that you know what you clubs can do, in a variety of circumstances.

A good example of this is the three par 3’s on the course. At 148, 191, 228 yards, respectively; you are required to hit a different shot on each one. Poland also sports at least one reachable par 4 and par 5’s that can be landed in two… none of which comes without risk, of course. All in all it’s a really fun course to play from a golf standpoint. While it may not be the most difficult course you’ll ever play, this is absolutely not a grip-it-and-rip-it course… you must manage your round. However, there is probably a nice low score waiting for you if you do.

We went out first so the pace of play for use was great. The groups behind us were also coming in rapidly, so I felt good about the pace of play in the morning. There was a rather long line at the first tee as we were leaving and I’m not certain if this was an event or it was really that backed up; but it did make me wonder if an afternoon round might not be the best choice.

I would be remiss if I didn’t mention the outstanding service we received from everyone at Poland Springs. We were treated incredibly well, and felt more like family than guests at times. This was true everywhere; lodging, the course, the museum/Maine House, grounds people… everyone was terrific.

We stayed on property and our time there was great, waking up to sunrise over fairways and forests is never a bad way to start your day. If you go, carve out some time to see the “Maine House” from the world’s fair expo and take a look at the spring water facility, it’s all pretty interesting as well.

I don’t know if I’ll even me in Maine again, but if I was I’d certainly hope to play another round here.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

GreatHorse Golf Course

Played On 05/18/2017
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

More than the sum of their (considerable) bunkers!

When I started doing research on courses, one of the things that jumped out at me was the 150+ bunkers (over 8 per hole!) that Greathorse boasted… then I got an email from them saying the website was a little out of date and they now had 207 (11.5/hole… more when you consider #6 has none). This course has bunkers, lots and lots, of bunkers…

What’s great (no pun intended), once you are out on the course, is that it doesn’t feel nearly as gimmicky as you might expect. Yes there is sand everywhere, and yes you will likely find yourself in some of it; however, you can also play a reasonable round of golf and miss the vast majority of them. Most of the fairways have fairly wide and open landing areas with the bunkers only looming for errant shots.

I also did manage a fairway bunker to greenside bunker par on #16, so even if you get into them, the trouble is not necessarily a day-ruiner as long as you keep your wits about you. It’s also worth mentioning that of all the courses I’ve played, these might have been the best playing bunkers I’ve experienced. Not once did I find mud or dirt under a thin layer of sand, nor did I experience overly packed sand or anything else that detracted from play.

There are some exceptions, of course. Number 8 is strewn with traps that all seemed to be in a place I could conceivably put my ball, and number 11 provides a relatively narrow landing strip. But again, most are quite playable if you just make decent shots. Having said all of that, don’t take too much for granted, the 73.9 rating and 133 slope seemed pretty much on point to me and the course does pack a little punch if you get complacent.

My favorite hole was probably 17, which is not only visually terrific off the tee box, but has the elevation changes I very much enjoy; dropping about 30 feet off the tee box into the landing area before climbing back up about 50 feet on your approach shot into the green. Greathorse has a flat “side” and a hilly “side” full of elevation changes. However, the routing takes you back and forth between them so you don’t wind up with a fully flat nine followed by an entirely rolling one. It’s a good bit of design that avoids the feeling of playing two different courses, the continuity is nice.

The par four 6th was also an interesting change of pace, featuring no bunkers but a peninsula green with a rather aggressive slope to it. It’s just a real visual change of pace against all the white sand everywhere, and a different kind of challenge. Number 18 has its own unique flavor, with your drive crossing the entry road to the club... be sure to look both ways!

This track will also afford you the use of as many clubs in your bag as you are comfortable hitting. There are plenty of “driver-wedge” holes that can be just as easily managed with a long/mid iron pairing. I just let the bunkers decide where I was going to place my tee shot… taking what the course gives you is a particularly good idea here.

The course conditions, especially for early in the season were also outstanding. In particular, the bunkers (and their tell-tale edges) were nearly perfect. The tee-boxes were picture worthy themselves and the fairway and green cuts were clear and well-manicured. There is clearly a significant investment in course maintenance here.

The staff at Greathorse is right up there with the best we experienced on this 50 day/round junket; attentive, friendly, energetic, and interested I could run out of ink before running out of compliments. I even had a lovely conversation with a member of the grounds crew fixing a sprinkler line (as I dug my way out of one of the bunkers near him). We covered course maintenance, how many times he has been hit by wayward shots, and a variety of other topics. We also chatted up an intern as she made her way to work, walking up to the clubhouse from the 9th green. Again, just great people all the way around.

It’s worth taking some time to check out the driving range as well. If you break out the big stick and give it a ride, you can put your ball up against the rock wall at the far end. The bunkers on the range are also maintained better than many of those that are actually on-course at many other locations. It’s really a nice setup.

The only thing I really can’t speak to is the pace of play, there really weren’t many people on the course, either in front of or behind us. I can see that things could get backed up a bit of someone kept finding bunkers, but given that it is a semi-private club I get the feeling they aren’t that often overwhelmed.

Overall I thought Greathorse was a terrific experience and far more than the (considerable) sum of their bunkers. If you get the chance, you really should give it a run.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 03/14/2018

Oooops... #4 is the hole with no bunkers, not number 6. And, it's a private, not semi-private club. Sorry for any confusion. -sbj

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